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Back to the original question, the Kia Sorrento is really nice. It is a "tweener" in size being smaller than most 7 pax crossovers but larger than most of the compacts like the RAV4. It still offers the normally aspirated V-6 engine. An LX V-6 is around $35K well equipped and there are substantial incentives. It also comes with a 10 yr warranty. Of the options on the OPs original list it stands out.
Back to the original question, the Kia Sorrento is really nice. It is a "tweener" in size being smaller than most 7 pax crossovers but larger than most of the compacts like the RAV4. It still offers the normally aspirated V-6 engine. An LX V-6 is around $35K well equipped and there are substantial incentives. It also comes with a 10 yr warranty. Of the options on the OPs original list it stands out.
The folks I know who own Sorentos are quite pleased with them.
I'm biased since I own a CX-9, but I would recommend the RAV4 or a 2017-2018 CX-5 in GT trim. Having never driven or been inside of a current gen RAV4, this recommendation comes simply from anecdotal accounts from extended family. They have no complaints about the vehicle.
With the 17-18 CX-5, Mazda made it much quieter in the cabin compared to the outgoing 2016 model. I haven't driven the CX-5 or the RAV4, but I would assume that the RAV would provide a more comfortable ride while the CX-5 would be a little more firm, but more predictable to operate. The RAV is better with regard to fuel efficiency I think, but the 2.5 motor in the CX-5 has been pretty bulletproof so far.
I think it'll come down to the test drive for sure. Feature-wise, I think the RAV4 edges out the CX-5 (haven't cross-referenced to check). Mazda's safety suite seems to be pretty good as well (skip to 1:50):
I'm biased since I own a CX-9, but I would recommend the RAV4 or a 2017-2018 CX-5 in GT trim. Having never driven or been inside of a current gen RAV4, this recommendation comes simply from anecdotal accounts from extended family. They have no complaints about the vehicle.
With the 17-18 CX-5, Mazda made it much quieter in the cabin compared to the outgoing 2016 model. I haven't driven the CX-5 or the RAV4, but I would assume that the RAV would provide a more comfortable ride while the CX-5 would be a little more firm, but more predictable to operate. The RAV is better with regard to fuel efficiency I think, but the 2.5 motor in the CX-5 has been pretty bulletproof so far.
I think it'll come down to the test drive for sure. Feature-wise, I think the RAV4 edges out the CX-5 (haven't cross-referenced to check). Mazda's safety suite seems to be pretty good as well (skip to 1:50):
Good input, thank you. The interior and exterior styling of both the CX-5 and CX-9 are really striking and impressive to me. She'll be checking the CX-5 out in a couple of weeks.
Who cares. All of these vehicles come with BSM, a back up cam, a rear view mirror and side mirrors. Some also come with Cross Traffic Alert systems. Who even shoulder checks anymore? /sarcasm
Seriously though, while I still shoulder check (and can see just fine out of the back of my car), it's mostly just due to habit. I've also had my mirrors adjusted as shown in the pic below for the past year, and it works great. Eliminates the need to shoulder check (again, I still do it out of habit).
Who cares. All of these vehicles come with BSM, a back up cam, a rear view mirror and side mirrors. Some also come with Cross Traffic Alert systems. Who even shoulder checks anymore? /sarcasm
Seriously though, while I still shoulder check (and can see just fine out of the back of my car), it's mostly just due to habit. I've also had my mirrors adjusted as shown in the pic below for the past year, and it works great. Eliminates the need to shoulder check (again, I still do it out of habit).
One of the things I like about Ford products is that they often include a small convex insert that significantly extends the view of the mirrors.......without a bunch of electronics or systems to fail.
I think a Toyota RAV4 new body would be nice, I have the 2018 for my father and I find it pretty quiet around town I could only imagine the 2019 being even quieter , the 2018 unless you push it hard gets loud and the ride is smooth except over really rough pavement, size wise the new one is pretty similar they said to to the first gen Highlander. We actually went for the RAV4 for the same reason, my father found the new Highlander and also Honda Pilot too big for him, the third row wasn't really something he needed either for my Mom and Him when they were replacing their old Mazda MPV.
I think a Toyota RAV4 new body would be nice, I have the 2018 for my father and I find it pretty quiet around town I could only imagine the 2019 being even quieter , the 2018 unless you push it hard gets loud and the ride is smooth except over really rough pavement, size wise the new one is pretty similar they said to to the first gen Highlander. We actually went for the RAV4 for the same reason, my father found the new Highlander and also Honda Pilot too big for him, the third row wasn't really something he needed either for my Mom and Him when they were replacing their old Mazda MPV.
Many people (me included) also think the 2019 RAV-4 is far better looking than the 2018.
yeah but to me the forrester is a really ugly vehicle.
But does that make it a bad vehicle?
Originally Posted by mmarshall
Many people (me included) also think the 2019 RAV-4 is far better looking than the 2018.
But does that make the 2018 RAV4 a bad vehicle? It is, after all, a top-selling crossover in North America, so there must be something good about it.
Originally Posted by sm1ke
Who cares. All of these vehicles come with BSM, a back up cam, a rear view mirror and side mirrors. Some also come with Cross Traffic Alert systems. Who even shoulder checks anymore? /sarcasm
Seriously though, while I still shoulder check (and can see just fine out of the back of my car), it's mostly just due to habit. I've also had my mirrors adjusted as shown in the pic below for the past year, and it works great. Eliminates the need to shoulder check (again, I still do it out of habit).
I have had my mirrors set that way for 20 years now; in addition, I place round, convex wide-angle mirrors on the wing mirror glass also. I only find it necessary to do a shoulder check if the mirrors are dirty and/or there is too much glare at night from the reflection of headlights.
Originally Posted by mmarshall
One of the things I like about Ford products is that they often include a small convex insert that significantly extends the view of the mirrors.......without a bunch of electronics or systems to fail.
RAV4s in Canada also have that convex wide-angle insert. As I recall, Venzas in Canada also had that.
