Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.

Sexiest suv award? 4th gen RX?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-13-18, 12:35 PM
  #31  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,623
Received 2,521 Likes on 1,819 Posts
Default

He meant the RX-L was not moving, not the regular RX. The RX is Lexus best selling vehicle.
SW17LS is online now  
Old 11-13-18, 12:53 PM
  #32  
mmarshall
Lexus Fanatic
 
mmarshall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Virginia/D.C. suburbs
Posts: 90,585
Received 83 Likes on 82 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Johnhav430
I know that when I did the $100 Lexus test drive in the RX-L, the GM who drove with me said they are not moving,
Yes, that makes more sense.....as Steve noted, my earlier comments were on the regular RX, not the RX-L. Steve and I both agree that one of the big problems of the three-row seat version (and probably one reason why it isn't moving more) is that the designers generally did not to the job properly when they integrated the third row....it overly-cramped the two rear rows.
mmarshall is offline  
Old 11-13-18, 01:24 PM
  #33  
TXgearhead
Intermediate
 
TXgearhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Texas
Posts: 296
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Range Rover is still the best designed SUV by far.

Next would be the X5M.

Jag Fpace, RR Velar, Gwagon, Alfa Stelvio Quadrofoglio also all are well designed.
4Runner is a worthy mention but interior design is very old.
We have similar taste in design. I agree. I might add the Macan to that list.
TXgearhead is offline  
Old 11-13-18, 01:27 PM
  #34  
highrev6
Lead Lap
 
highrev6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Ohio
Posts: 608
Received 87 Likes on 70 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Johnhav430
I know that when I did the $100 Lexus test drive in the RX-L, the GM who drove with me said they are not moving, nor are the LS500s, and he has to turn it around. I can't remember what month that was. The good news is there was plenty activity in the dealership at 18:00 EST, so people had to be selling cars, maybe just not RX's and LS'.
  • LS sales increased by 154.6 percent for month of October 2018 with 835
  • LS up 54.6 percent in September 2018 with 668
  • LS posted sales of 923 units in August 2018 down 7%, but was still the segment leader in sales minus the Tesla Model S.
In fact the LS500 has been on par with the S-class leading all other large luxury cars(except Model S) in sales since May. The 7 series has also been decently competitive. Not sure what your dealer GM considers a good seller, but obviously somebody's moving the new LS.
highrev6 is offline  
Old 11-13-18, 03:26 PM
  #35  
Diemellz
Advanced
 
Diemellz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 524
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

Navigator #1 to me
RR SVRs
Volvo V90
Escalade ESV
JGC Trailhawks
Diemellz is offline  
Old 11-13-18, 05:41 PM
  #36  
RNM GS3
Lexus Test Driver
 
RNM GS3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 7,069
Received 62 Likes on 46 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by highrev6
  • LS sales increased by 154.6 percent for month of October 2018 with 835
  • LS up 54.6 percent in September 2018 with 668
  • LS posted sales of 923 units in August 2018 down 7%, but was still the segment leader in sales minus the Tesla Model S.
In fact the LS500 has been on par with the S-class leading all other large luxury cars(except Model S) in sales since May. The 7 series has also been decently competitive. Not sure what your dealer GM considers a good seller, but obviously somebody's moving the new LS.

LS sales are in the toilet.....just got this email from Lexus:

Discover incredible offers on any 2018 LS, LS Hybrid or LS F SPORT.
- Up to $8,000 in combined conquest and cash offers when you lease or buy.
- 0.0% APR financing up to 60 months when you buy.

These unprecedented offers have been extended through 12/31/18. See offer details below.


Wow - This is as bad as the discounts on the RCF and GSF. LS is only in Its first model year, it has another 6-7yrs before a new model.
RNM GS3 is offline  
Old 11-13-18, 05:44 PM
  #37  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,623
Received 2,521 Likes on 1,819 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RNM GS3


LS sales are in the toilet.....just got this email from Lexus:

Discover incredible offers on any 2018 LS, LS Hybrid or LS F SPORT.
- Up to $8,000 in combined conquest and cash offers when you lease or buy.
- 0.0% APR financing up to 60 months when you buy.

These unprecedented offers have been extended through 12/31/18. See offer details below.


Wow - This is as bad as the discounts on the RCF and GSF. LS is only in Its first model year, it has another 6-7yrs before a new model.
This is typical for the segment. Incentives on the S Class are just as big.
SW17LS is online now  
Old 11-13-18, 06:08 PM
  #38  
highrev6
Lead Lap
 
highrev6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Ohio
Posts: 608
Received 87 Likes on 70 Posts
Default

Yeah that $8k incentive is nothing compared to some of the other medium and large Luxury sedans I’ve seen for sale lately.

try $30k off a brand new 2018 Maserati Quattroporte or $20k off the 2018 Audi RS7 right now. Everyone is doing their end of the year clear the lot sales, just because you see lots of cash incentives on a car’s hood doesn’t mean it’s a sales are trash. LS tied and has surpassed the juggernaut S-class in sales the past few months.

highrev6 is offline  
Old 11-13-18, 06:42 PM
  #39  
peteharvey
Lead Lap
 
peteharvey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Ca
Posts: 4,173
Received 449 Likes on 294 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS
I don't find the new RX attractive at all...
Steve, you may have rebellious tastes?
I find the new RX attractive.

You don't find the new RX attractive, though in the past few years, the RX has been America's biggest selling luxury motor vehicle.
Yet you find the new 5LS attractive, even though the new 5LS is by far the worst selling LS to debut in history.

Your "personal" opinion is one thing, but the "market's" opinion is something else.
A manufacturer like Lexus will obviously choose the market's opinion over individual opinions...
peteharvey is offline  
Old 11-13-18, 06:48 PM
  #40  
RNM GS3
Lexus Test Driver
 
RNM GS3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 7,069
Received 62 Likes on 46 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by SW17LS
This is typical for the segment. Incentives on the S Class are just as big.
Please show me anything like this for Sclass or 7series.
Not to mention the crazy 0% financing for 60months! I have never seen them do a fire sale like that especially on a 1st year model.

The $8,000 is on top of the regular negotiation so combined your looking at $15-20k discount.

Last edited by RNM GS3; 11-13-18 at 06:53 PM.
RNM GS3 is offline  
Old 11-13-18, 06:52 PM
  #41  
RNM GS3
Lexus Test Driver
 
RNM GS3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 7,069
Received 62 Likes on 46 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by highrev6
Yeah that $8k incentive is nothing compared to some of the other medium and large Luxury sedans I’ve seen for sale lately.

try $30k off a brand new 2018 Maserati Quattroporte or $20k off the 2018 Audi RS7 right now. Everyone is doing their end of the year clear the lot sales, just because you see lots of cash incentives on a car’s hood doesn’t mean it’s a sales are trash. LS tied and has surpassed the juggernaut S-class in sales the past few months.

Please show me this. $20k discount on RS7!
BMW is offering nothing unfortunately in terms of lease cash and lease programs suck right now for all their models.


RNM GS3 is offline  
Old 11-13-18, 07:30 PM
  #42  
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
 
SW17LS's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Maryland
Posts: 55,623
Received 2,521 Likes on 1,819 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RNM GS3
Please show me anything like this for Sclass or 7series.
Not to mention the crazy 0% financing for 60months! I have never seen them do a fire sale like that especially on a 1st year model.

The $8,000 is on top of the regular negotiation so combined your looking at $15-20k discount.
I was quoted $20k off a $109k MSRP S Class with simply a dealer email. Whens the last time you priced these cars? I just bought in the segment this year. $20k off was easily achievable on S Class and 7 Series. Zero effort.

Don't believe me? Go look on MBWorld lol

Huge incentives are a requirement in this segment nowadays.
SW17LS is online now  
Old 11-13-18, 07:41 PM
  #43  
highrev6
Lead Lap
 
highrev6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Ohio
Posts: 608
Received 87 Likes on 70 Posts
Default

Your in wrong market region if you can’t find big incentives on luxury cars. I know a Mercedes dealer giving $20k off left over W205 C63’s and E63S AMG wagons that they can’t move and they are new 2018’s in California.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...ed-up-to-18500





highrev6 is offline  
Old 11-14-18, 05:11 AM
  #44  
Toys4RJill
Lexus Fanatic
 
Toys4RJill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ON/NY
Posts: 30,487
Received 62 Likes on 53 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RNM GS3
LS is only in Its first model year, it has another 6-7yrs before a new model.
I agree, for a first year model, the incentives are surprising and are somewhat disappointing.. I would say the incentives support the idea that the new LS is not selling as well as Lexus had hoped.
Toys4RJill is offline  
Old 11-14-18, 08:56 AM
  #45  
JDR76
Lexus Champion
 
JDR76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: WA
Posts: 12,332
Received 1,603 Likes on 1,021 Posts
Default

Not sure what LS sales and rebates have to do with an SUV thread, but I'll join in.

$8k on a roughly $80k car doesn't seem that crazy to me. Back when I leased my GS they had $5k Lexus cash, so also roughly 10% of a lightly optioned model. That's when the GS was still selling over 20k a year. You can get some pretty good cash back during the December to Remember sales event.

My local dealer isn't advertising any promotions/Lexus cash on the new LS, but I'm sure it'll be coming soon.
JDR76 is online now  


Quick Reply: Sexiest suv award? 4th gen RX?



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:24 AM.