Was going to get 2019 G63 but got loaded/modded 2019 LX570 instead
10-02-18, 02:25 PM
#16
I’m part of the small category in car forums that is not a fanboy of any brand, I just like them all. I currently have a Mercedes and on that forum, I have a thread dedicated to all the issues that have come up with my car in the first 6 months.
I stick out like a sore thumb here because I don’t say, “well the Lexus is more reliable or the Lexus holds its value better or the Lexus costs less to maintain.” You know as well as I do that every car comparison on this forum has one of those three lines mentioned as the deciding factor. I’m willing to deal with more headaches and cost because I want something fun.
The only brands I’m biased against are BMW (can’t stand the people that drive them) and that damn Kia Stinger that people thing is Gods greatest gift to man.
My opinion counts just as much as yours does here.
10-02-18, 02:31 PM
#17
Just like I said in my last post. The majority of people commenting here have no idea what that are talking about, but it’s the internet, so who cares right?
The G wagon is ALL NEW. Stop comparing it to the old one. It is lighter, faster, more comfortable, more aerodynamic than the last generation. The Land Cruiser is NOT a direct competitor to the G wagon.
Why make an AMG version? Because AMG makes crazy ******, like they have been doing for years.... Not everything has to be rational. That is why Mercedes is fun. They also made a 6 wheeled monster G wagon. The AMG brand doesn’t take itself too seriously, they have fun, leave it at that.
You posting “it’s a ridiculous vehicle unless you’re in Africa..” You look silly posting that. It doesn’t have to be practical to be enjoyable. Get that out of your head. Some people want something different. By your rationale I guess supercars should only sit at the track?
You can call the G wagon a lot of things, but bland it is not. Your ES350 is bland.
The G wagon is ALL NEW. Stop comparing it to the old one. It is lighter, faster, more comfortable, more aerodynamic than the last generation. The Land Cruiser is NOT a direct competitor to the G wagon.
Why make an AMG version? Because AMG makes crazy ******, like they have been doing for years.... Not everything has to be rational. That is why Mercedes is fun. They also made a 6 wheeled monster G wagon. The AMG brand doesn’t take itself too seriously, they have fun, leave it at that.
You posting “it’s a ridiculous vehicle unless you’re in Africa..” You look silly posting that. It doesn’t have to be practical to be enjoyable. Get that out of your head. Some people want something different. By your rationale I guess supercars should only sit at the track?
You can call the G wagon a lot of things, but bland it is not. Your ES350 is bland.
10-02-18, 03:37 PM
#19
Another post about how they belong in Africa... Yep, Mercedes target market for the $150k lux SUV is Africa.
Half of those posts say that the vehicle is too old. The new model OP is looking at just launched 2 months ago..
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10-02-18, 03:56 PM
#20
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What is the point of an AMG version of this? The shape is anti aerodynamics. All that resistance, it's just a status symbol if that's what you're going for but other than that. I find it a ridiculous vehicle unless you live in Kenya and take it out to the Serengeti to look at lions.
The new G63 is so badass. I'd rock it in a heartbeat. We had an ML63 that we almost traded in on a G55 (I don't think G63s existed yet) but didn't after test driving it. It made our already very stiff ML63 feel like our S-Class and the difference in performance/handling was noticeably worse. With this new model, most of those points should have been addressed and it should make an excellent all-rounder. Please share pics if you pick one up! 
Don’t listen to the uninformed poster above me. Posting only what he heard and no actual experience in one. Just another MB hater, there are plenty of them here.
I worked for Benz for a number of years. My customers that bought the G63 would not ever change to a different SUV. The new G63 is faster, quieter, and more comfortable than the older model. It feels like you are driving a small tank more than an SUV. Get it! It’s a unique vehicle, there really isn’t anything else for sale like it.
One thing to keep in mind, rear legroom is still somewhat limited on the new G63.
I worked for Benz for a number of years. My customers that bought the G63 would not ever change to a different SUV. The new G63 is faster, quieter, and more comfortable than the older model. It feels like you are driving a small tank more than an SUV. Get it! It’s a unique vehicle, there really isn’t anything else for sale like it.
One thing to keep in mind, rear legroom is still somewhat limited on the new G63.
LOL I love MB. E63s AMG wagon or sedan. What I know about the G is it was designed for the Swiss Army and can be up to its wheel wells in water, but is expensive, not attractive, and unreliable. That's not hate, but it is very Kardashian. I didn't spend much time behind the wheel but I attended an event that had them, think it was Morristown NJ.
https://jalopnik.com/this-brand-new-...thi-1616856560
https://jalopnik.com/this-brand-new-...thi-1616856560
Yeah, I have to aggree there. But, I like Lexus seats better than Benz, that is the only thing I would really miss in the Lexus, which is pretty big when that is what you sit in. But I can't stand how much of a slug the car is and I guess it does not help when I drive the S63 on weekdays.
10-02-18, 04:20 PM
#21
I have decided to get rid of the 2016 model LX 570 as it just is so slow and uninteresting, although I do love the interior. Looks like it will be about 30K less than the S63, which I am upgrading to the latest minor change model. So has anyone else have experience with this car before I pull the trigger (Which will be next week BTW)?
Which means I will be full Benz and not one Lexus.........Unfortunately.
Which means I will be full Benz and not one Lexus.........Unfortunately.
as to the size, i thought trunk is much smaller? But does anyone need LX sized trunk?
10-02-18, 04:29 PM
#22
Lexus Test Driver
Ahhh. The G-Wagon. The car only MB can make and get away with it.
Can you imagine any other luxury brand making a vehicle like the G-Wagon? It'll get laughed at.
I love MB but the G-Wagon, in my opinion, its a joke of a car. It cost too much for what it is.
Can you imagine any other luxury brand making a vehicle like the G-Wagon? It'll get laughed at.
I love MB but the G-Wagon, in my opinion, its a joke of a car. It cost too much for what it is.
10-02-18, 06:47 PM
#23
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- It has basically the S63 interior
- It has all the safety of the S-Class and S63
- It has the same tuned Engine as the AMG GTR
- The new model rides a hell of a lot better due to the complete redesign of the chassis and suspension
As for the look of the car, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I hardly see this car being less for the money than any other AMG starting at E-Class level.
10-02-18, 07:34 PM
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10-02-18, 11:59 PM
#25
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Not sure I understand that??? I would be interested as to why you say that, b/c then you have to say that about all AMG models.
As for the look of the car, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I hardly see this car being less for the money than any other AMG starting at E-Class level.
- It has basically the S63 interior
- It has all the safety of the S-Class and S63
- It has the same tuned Engine as the AMG GTR
- The new model rides a hell of a lot better due to the complete redesign of the chassis and suspension
As for the look of the car, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I hardly see this car being less for the money than any other AMG starting at E-Class level.
Just because the G63 has an AMG engine - doesn't mean its an AMG car. The G63 is nothing compared to the "legit" AMGs that actually perform and has a track purpose.
And besides - the problem with the G-Wagon isn't because it has an AMG engine. The problem with the G-Wagon is that its pretty much a car that tells people you are rich rather than being a good car. If any other car company made a car like the G-Wagon, it would never sell. The only reason the G-Wagon sells is because of Hollywood and because its a MB.
10-03-18, 01:10 AM
#26
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Actually no - it doesn't have the same interior as the S63 or the S-Class. The S-Class interior is more refined and thought through. The G63 interior looks cheap compared to the S63.
Just because the G63 has an AMG engine - doesn't mean its an AMG car. The G63 is nothing compared to the "legit" AMGs that actually perform and has a track purpose.
And besides - the problem with the G-Wagon isn't because it has an AMG engine. The problem with the G-Wagon is that its pretty much a car that tells people you are rich rather than being a good car. If any other car company made a car like the G-Wagon, it would never sell. The only reason the G-Wagon sells is because of Hollywood and because its a MB.
Just because the G63 has an AMG engine - doesn't mean its an AMG car. The G63 is nothing compared to the "legit" AMGs that actually perform and has a track purpose.
And besides - the problem with the G-Wagon isn't because it has an AMG engine. The problem with the G-Wagon is that its pretty much a car that tells people you are rich rather than being a good car. If any other car company made a car like the G-Wagon, it would never sell. The only reason the G-Wagon sells is because of Hollywood and because its a MB.
It has the exact same front seats as a S63, leather on just about as much surface as the S63 and considering I drive an S63 6 days of the week when I saw the G63 I did not see much difference, it is a distinct AMG interior. Sure things are placed differently, but they are two completely different cars. There is no way you could have a similar cockpit in the G63 as the S63.
I never realized that a "Legit AMG" was a track car, from what I can recall AMG was all about straight line power and burning rubber. It has only been recently that they made cars that can go around corners and if you wanted a sedan that could do that you bout a M3. And if that is the case ,the only "Legit AMG" would be the GTR and maybe the C63, everything else is not a track car. The G63 "Performs" fine at what is designed for, to be used on and off road. And BTW the G63 is faster to 60 than a C43 AMG. So... there is that.
And finally, I would love to hear what you call a "good car"?
Now, the reason I am buying AMG's is absolutely not b/c I am going to take it to the track.
I like them b/c
- They have ample amounts of power
- They sound great
- They have great interiors with a good sound system
- And b/c they serve the purpose that I need them for
10-03-18, 03:41 AM
#27
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To the OP, sounds like you have made up your mind and have good reason for getting the G63. As a fellow LX owner, sad to see you go but I hope you get it and love it. The G wagon has a presence that very few vehicles on the road have - and there's no way you'd get the grin on your face like you see from the guys in the video when accelerating in your LX on a winding road... Post pics if/when you get it.
10-03-18, 04:58 AM
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