Its not bad, saw it at the auto show. But the mid size segment is ultra competitive so it has lots of competition. I dount Toyota or Honda owners will switch brands. We shall see

 

That won't last too long. Once production ramps up and everyone who has to have one gets one, it will just be another full size SUV in a crowded market.

 

Saw 3 of them this weekend, all looked nice but because they were new and clean, I couldn't help but notice the brakes. It's what I do. Jumped online to see what it was about, and again, no torque by today's standards. I think Ford really nailed it there with ecoboost. To charge over sticker when online I saw top trim started at 41k? You know what they say about a fool and his money lol I think Ford reclaims this segment with the new Explorer.

 

I think 41K for a car like that with a warranty like that is a great bargain. None of the competitors even come close. Over sticker always ends bad though. When the Hyundai Palisade comes out soon the supply will pick up. These cars are really nice for the price.

 

I've started to see them around and I do like them.

I checked and none of the local Kia dealers are marking them up here. They are going for list right now.

 

If I worked for Kia I'd be proud. Imagine, commanding list for our new vehicle.

 

Agreed. I would definitely consider one when shopping in the segment, but it doesn't scream "This is so incredible nothing else in the segment compares" like some people say to me at all.

 

i guarantee a top trim new explorer is gonna be WAY over 41k.

snap, just looked it up... platinum 2020 explorer starts at 58250.

 

I've started seeing a lot of these around too. I'm not really a Hyundai guy, but the thing has legit road presence I will definitely give it that.

 

Fully optioned, it'll top out at $64K. Ludicrous for this segment where most don't pass $50K.

 

Totally disagree. $64k for a fully loaded Explorer Platinum is not ludicrous. Competing vehicles that top at $50k are not comparable to a Platinum Explorer. The closest allegory would be a Grand Cherokee Summit with the extended leather package. Guess what that costs? $64k.

I would pay $60k for an Explorer Platinum.

For people that want what that $50k competitor vehicle is, there's an Explorer that competes against those cars at a value. The Platinum trim is just much nicer than what the competitors offer.

 

^^^ Agreed.

many on here are still thinking of prices from some mythical ‘good old days’ or comparing with used car prices. i expect cars are cheaper today certainly when you consider the astounding feature set, quality, performance, efficiency, etc.

My gs400 in yr 2000 was 52k out the door. That’s 19 years ago

 

No, I'm just comparing to the competition. Yes, the Explorer does go further than the rest of its competition, but I wouldn't say $15K more. How is an Explorer Platinum worth 2 base Explorers? Or why is it the same price as a Ford Expedition Max Limited? And while interior quality is much better than the outgoing model, it is still inferior to the CX-9 at $20K less.

 

FWIW, that's $76,6xx in today's dollars. That's a lot of money. How much would a top line GS350 go for today?

 

Agreed. Platinum is Ford's "Denali line", basically a way to get a luxury vehicle without the badge. Now, GMC doesn't have something competitive with the Explorer, but a loaded version of the much smaller, FWD-based Acadia Denali is $57k. Had they been available last year, we would have cross-shopped the Aviator and the Explorer Platinum against the X5 and XC90, as well as the Q7 that we eventually purchased. We did not cross-shop the Traverse, Enclave, or the old Explorer.