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What is so bad about it? So does a Avalon not have true dual exhaust?
The Avalon has a true dual exhaust - it actually has a V-6, so it would make sense to. I think the cosmetic dual on the Camry is kinda pointless, though. They still exit on the same side of the bumper.
edit: Evidently, it's a dual exhaust in appearance only.
Congrats to your folks. I really like the new Avalon, and I hope they will too! I agree with some others on the thread, the ES and Avalon are so similar that it's somewhat surprising they didn't wait to try it. However, the touchpad infotainment is "bleh". I've used it a few times (my IS has the joystick instead of the track pad) and basically like to "set it and forget it" as much as possible. At least the Avalon gives you a no-nonsense touch screen.
Here is an exploded diagram of the exhaust system of the Avalon. As you can see there are two tips, and two mufflers, but only one pipe coming from the engine back.
Here is an exploded diagram of the exhaust system of the Avalon. As you can see there are two tips, and two mufflers, but only one pipe coming from the engine back.
What is the diagram say for the GS350 with the same engine.
It does not. Just because a car has two tips and exhaust comes out of both doesn't mean it has a true dual exhaust.
I know that. I assumed because it was a "V" engine, and other applications of this same engine have dual exhausts, that it would be in the Avalon as well. Oh well.
Nothing really wrong with fake duals, not like fake wood if you ask me.
I'm fascinated with what I'm fascinated with. Never been able to determine where the fake duals even came from. I know Lexus and Honda had them in the 90's, and that's pretty early on. There are even cars who got them, and eliminated them, like Subaru. Why add all that weight and parts costs, when they don't do anything, right?
When I got my 335i in Dec. 2006, I found out I had a true dual. I was like sweet, although how, it's an inline 6? Then one day I was all depressed, dude who was a gearhead (Mopar) said what's wrong? I said I just looked under my car and I have a fake dual exhaust. He said you don't, but what would make you think that? Told him there's a pipe going from one muffler to the other--to my delight, he said you idiot that's called an H-pipe, that does not disqualify your system from being a true dual. Amazing BMW engineers were able to get away with that for about 4 years or so, before bean counters convinced the co. software can do the same numbers, and they can cut the costs in 1/2 by making a fake dual setup (by the B58 the cost was 1/4--and looked like a Pontiac G6).
speaking of toyota and true duals, i think fake duals are better than this abomination i saw the other day...
What's interesting, is the way this Camry looks, and the twin tips--the BMW 7 and the Pontiac GTO when it returned, had true duals (the BMW I have accepted from what I was told, and the GTO I have seen the diagram), yet they exited the rear like this Camry. The GTO then went to a muffler on each side, before disappearing altogether.
Here is an exploded diagram of the exhaust system of the Avalon. As you can see there are two tips, and two mufflers, but only one pipe coming from the engine back.
Originally Posted by arentz07
I know that. I assumed because it was a "V" engine, and other applications of this same engine have dual exhausts, that it would be in the Avalon as well. Oh well.
Originally Posted by SW17LS
Not as easy to find as you'd think but here you go. Note the two mid pipes, two resonators, etc
There is a Y-pipe on the GS . Both manifolds come together to then split again, same thing for the Avalon which has two manifolds.
Do you have the diagram before the Y-pipe on the GS?
There is a Y-pipe on the GS . Both manifolds come together to then split again, same thing for the Avalon which has two manifolds.
Do you have the diagram before the Y-pipe on the GS?
Not really This is a 2008, you can see the resonator and all is different, but it shows the way the exhaust comes down from the manifolds which should be the same:
Of course the Avalon has two manifolds, every vehicle with an engine thats a V does, but the exhaust is carried through only one pipe for the majority of its travel.
Not really This is a 2008, you can see the resonator and all is different, but it shows the way the exhaust comes down from the manifolds which should be the same:
Of course the Avalon has two manifolds, every vehicle with an engine thats a V does, but the exhaust is carried through only one pipe for the majority of its travel.
From the diagram you posted. Both the Avalon and GS both appear to be dual, just set up slightly differently.
From the diagram you posted. Both the Avalon and GS both appear to be dual, just set up slightly differently.
You can believe that if you want but it isn't the case. You could make an argument that the GS doesn't have a true dual exhaust either, but there is no argument that the Avalon has a true dual exhaust.
Here's a good undercarriage view pf the LS500 showing its true dual exhaust:
Sweet! I did not know. Lexus should brag about it, put it in the brochure. I guess it doesn't really "sell" cars, but why not tout what the engineers did?
Sweet! I did not know. Lexus should brag about it, put it in the brochure. I guess it doesn't really "sell" cars, but why not tout what the engineers did?
The LS has always had a true dual exhaust, thats not new for the LS500.
08-22-18, 08:34 AM
