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Old 08-09-18, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
And on top of that, its a total death trap!
That crash-video, though, was from a later-generation of Quest than the 3rd-generation abomination I posted. The one you posted was the last version sold in the U.S.

Since the thread topic is on minivans, it's a shame, IMO, that more of them are not available today in the U.S. market. GM and Ford, two of the largest automakers, opted out of the market a number of years ago, and only four are left.....the Sienna, Odyssey, Pacifica, and Sedona. OK, maybe four and a half LOL, if you include the old outdated Grand Caravan, which is basically living on life-support. Probably the only reason the GC is still selling at all (besides its low price) is that it still carries the name of the original Voyager/Caravan twins that revolutionized the people-mover industry back in the 1980s.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
That crash-video, though, was from a later-generation of Quest than the 3rd-generation abomination I posted. The one you posted was the last version sold in the U.S.

Since the thread topic is on minivans, it's a shame, IMO, that more of them are not available today in the U.S. market. GM and Ford, two of the largest automakers, opted out of the market a number of years ago, and only four are left.....the Sienna, Odyssey, Pacifica, and Sedona. OK, maybe four and a half LOL, if you include the old outdated Grand Caravan, which is basically living on life-support. Probably the only reason the GC is still selling at all (besides its low price) is that it still carries the name of the original Voyager/Caravan twins that revolutionized the people-mover industry back in the 1980s.
Funny too, the GC that we rented last week, came with Michelin Energy Saver A/S' (also, I could not find the GT on the website, I truly was curious what GT really meant, besides a nice steering wheel and actually nice steering). I've always wondered why some cheap cars come with good tires, and more expensive cars with cheap tires. Michelin tends to be costlier regardless of performance. As of late I've seem to have gravitated to them except on the Lexus which sports Rydanz, engineered in Europe, manufactured in China.
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I'm driving around in a 2015 GS. You really want to talk about ugly?
You think your 2015 GS is ugly? I think they're great looking.
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Old 08-09-18, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnhav430
Funny too, the GC that we rented last week, came with Michelin Energy Saver A/S' (also, I could not find the GT on the website, I truly was curious what GT really meant, besides a nice steering wheel and actually nice steering). I've always wondered why some cheap cars come with good tires, and more expensive cars with cheap tires. Michelin tends to be costlier regardless of performance. As of late I've seem to have gravitated to them except on the Lexus which sports Rydanz, engineered in Europe, manufactured in China.
Its not GT, its R/T

Michelin doesn't make ALL high quality tires, they have some crappy models too.
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Old 08-09-18, 11:11 AM
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And if you ever thought about buying a Chrysler hybrid...took this pic while I was picking mine up:



Yikes LOL
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
And if you ever thought about buying a Chrysler hybrid...took this pic while I was picking mine up:

Yikes LOL
LOL. Probably not as big a deal as the picture makes it out to be. Lexus doesn't even do this for their hybrids (that I've seen). Any time you see an orange wire, it's very high voltage. No touchy. Only Lexus technicians with hybrid certification are allowed to work on Lexus hybrids. In regards to this picture, there is potentially just an open or exposed point on the car that could give a severe shock. Or perhaps just a deterrent from other techs coming over and playing with the car.



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Old 08-09-18, 11:43 AM
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Oh I know, its just funny lol
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Its not GT, its R/T

Michelin doesn't make ALL high quality tires, they have some crappy models too.
I really could not find GT on the website. I didn't even notice the GT badging until we got to Canada. Pulled out the reggie, and it said 2018. Bizarre? Had like 3800 miles so was not an old car. But it did appear to have been hit both sides and repainted, as I saw that crinkly body work deal....maybe some funny business going on with a salvage or the hatch is a old part? who knows!

edit it exists, but pretty sure it's not on the website, so maybe discontinued...

https://www.nadaguides.com/Cars/2018...-Wagon/Pricing


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from dodge canada:

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This thread kind of shows you why one should avoid FCA products for the long haul. My brother is on his second Sienna, first one was an 04 which was traded last year at 220K. It needed some work at that point but only was in the dealer for one repair which was a air conditioning that stopped working. They seem to like there new one as well. My husband has a high school friend who is on their second Honda Odyssey, they kept the first one as the dealer would not give them much for a trade, they have a new Odyssey as well as a 15 year Accord and their old Odyssey.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
You think your 2015 GS is ugly? I think they're great looking.
I thought it was nice looking, but now its just garish and unrefined. Relative to the new grills.
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Makes sense, "GT" is a Canadian trim...

In the US thats the "R/T".
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Makes sense, "GT" is a Canadian trim...

In the US thats the "R/T".

R/T was short for "Rapid-Transit". Dodge once also used the "Scat Pack" moniker for its performance-line.....a retro term it also brought back for the current Hemi Chargers and Challengers.
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