it'll get worked out.

 

With a relatively small dealer network and lower brand awareness I'm sure the S60 and V60 will make small dents vs. the segment leaders, but they'll continue to grow the Volvo brand in the U.S. and make their dealers happy.

 

Not really a waste of space.
It's not too far off. Though the back seat might be a bit cramped.
Volvo actually pushed all 4 wheels further to the corners, and used design tricks to make it look more RWD.
It doesn't have such a huge sheet of metal for the front door.

And judging by wheel size, this may actually be Accord sized.
Longer wheelbase, more stability and comfort on the highway

Here's a side by side
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Now they are just sticking that interior on everything they make? I mean they all look identical. BMW gets so much flack about this, and yet nothing here? lol

 

The interior design is 2 years old and is revolutionary compared to the outgoing S60. The BMW 8 series interior (comparable to their last big gt the 6) which everyones been flaming dates back to 2003....15 years ago, and rode on three different platform codes (ie e63 etc) including the recently launched 8.

If Volvo keeps the same thing for about the same period, I`d feel the same way, but this is revolutionary, and as I maintain, Lexus Volvo and MB are leaders in the interior game currently. Everyone else is playing it safe, which is not a bad thing functionally, but for an enthusiast disappointing in a some ways.

So far the S60 hits the right boxes. Considering how poorly the S90 sells on its own without incentives, and then has become a hidden lease gem with huge incentives currently I`d suspect this is going to be something of a classic go to vehicle at its price point. I dont expect the same levels of sales as a ES, but I would say numbers pick up way over the current s60. The safety is a HUGE PRO, the tech is good, but the infotainment hardware needs to be more meaty then whats currently offered (its good but has quirks). Performance powertrain wise would be adequate, nothing polestar levels, but I most buyers in the demo arent really buying the brand for performance.

My other question would be if since this is built stateside, will there be any production outside, making this eligible for the european delivery option which is still really good over other EDPs.

 

 

True, and to be honest I personally dont know of many subscription services that are booming at the current moment. I think the only way to make these things become highly adoptable would be either to lower their price of entry (less likely) or remove leasing as an option (more likely), aka put a positive spin on something essentially that is negative cost wise to the customer and always market it as "Simple, Value inducing, and hassle-free, or Volvo-Plus/Select". Buzzwords galore

 

whole point of automakers doing subscription service is to make them more money. If it does not make them more money, they will not do it.

I dont think many people will get Volvo S60 for $900 subscription, it might work for first few months on the market, certainly wont later on... and they wont be able to drop the price a lot because then they will make less money than with traditional leasing.

 

For sure especially when certain deals on S90 were about $250-350 a month.

 

that's like a $500/mo lease if you factor in insurance and other conveniences. no deal

 

 

First of all Volvo subscription is not a what you (or at least I) think it is. You can't hot swap the cars, you are still renting ONE car. They just found the fancy word to describe lease + expenses bundle

 

Well documented online. Now that were past q1 the deals have dried up. But these did exist

 

Source

 

I`m sorry unless ive been out of the loop, what does the polestar exactly offer? Gobs of power routed to the front, electric out back or hopefully soo?