2019 Volvo S60
06-21-18, 02:24 PM
#31
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06-21-18, 02:27 PM
#32
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With a relatively small dealer network and lower brand awareness I'm sure the S60 and V60 will make small dents vs. the segment leaders, but they'll continue to grow the Volvo brand in the U.S. and make their dealers happy.
06-21-18, 07:39 PM
#33
FWD is fine if you do not care about FWD vs RWD, but then, by providing this greater dash-to-axle ratio, Volvo has to waste space behind the front-mounted engine and transmission, in order to provide that extra length. If this Volvo is the length of the Accord, it will not be as space-efficient as the Accord. I would rather have the most cabin space for the footprint of the car than to waste it in the engine compartment.
It's not too far off. Though the back seat might be a bit cramped.
Volvo actually pushed all 4 wheels further to the corners, and used design tricks to make it look more RWD.
It doesn't have such a huge sheet of metal for the front door.
And judging by wheel size, this may actually be Accord sized.
Longer wheelbase, more stability and comfort on the highway
Here's a side by side
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Last edited by pman6; 06-21-18 at 07:42 PM.
06-22-18, 05:32 PM
#35
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If Volvo keeps the same thing for about the same period, I`d feel the same way, but this is revolutionary, and as I maintain, Lexus Volvo and MB are leaders in the interior game currently. Everyone else is playing it safe, which is not a bad thing functionally, but for an enthusiast disappointing in a some ways.
So far the S60 hits the right boxes. Considering how poorly the S90 sells on its own without incentives, and then has become a hidden lease gem with huge incentives currently I`d suspect this is going to be something of a classic go to vehicle at its price point. I dont expect the same levels of sales as a ES, but I would say numbers pick up way over the current s60. The safety is a HUGE PRO, the tech is good, but the infotainment hardware needs to be more meaty then whats currently offered (its good but has quirks). Performance powertrain wise would be adequate, nothing polestar levels, but I most buyers in the demo arent really buying the brand for performance.
My other question would be if since this is built stateside, will there be any production outside, making this eligible for the european delivery option which is still really good over other EDPs.
06-22-18, 11:25 PM
#36
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SPORT S60 R-Design Subscription
Care by Volvo is the all-inclusive way to enjoy a new Volvo. There is no negotiation, long-term commitment or compromise. Subscribing to this S60 R-Design will provide you with amenities such as insurance, maintenance, road hazard protection and normal wear-and-tear all rolled into one flat-rate monthly payment. Subscribe to this model and and enjoy a simple ownership experience.
PREMIUM S60 Momentum Subscription
Care by Volvo is the all-inclusive way to enjoy a new Volvo. There is no negotiation, long-term commitment or compromise. Subscribing to this S60 Momentum will provide you with amenities such as insurance, maintenance, road hazard protection and normal wear-and-tear all rolled into one flat-rate monthly payment. Subscribe to this model and and enjoy a simple ownership experience.
Care by Volvo is the all-inclusive way to enjoy a new Volvo. There is no negotiation, long-term commitment or compromise. Subscribing to this S60 R-Design will provide you with amenities such as insurance, maintenance, road hazard protection and normal wear-and-tear all rolled into one flat-rate monthly payment. Subscribe to this model and and enjoy a simple ownership experience.
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PREMIUM S60 Momentum Subscription
Care by Volvo is the all-inclusive way to enjoy a new Volvo. There is no negotiation, long-term commitment or compromise. Subscribing to this S60 Momentum will provide you with amenities such as insurance, maintenance, road hazard protection and normal wear-and-tear all rolled into one flat-rate monthly payment. Subscribe to this model and and enjoy a simple ownership experience.
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Last edited by bagwell; 06-22-18 at 11:39 PM.
06-23-18, 10:50 AM
#37
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True, and to be honest I personally dont know of many subscription services that are booming at the current moment. I think the only way to make these things become highly adoptable would be either to lower their price of entry (less likely) or remove leasing as an option (more likely), aka put a positive spin on something essentially that is negative cost wise to the customer and always market it as "Simple, Value inducing, and hassle-free, or Volvo-Plus/Select". Buzzwords galore
06-24-18, 08:16 AM
#38
True, and to be honest I personally dont know of many subscription services that are booming at the current moment. I think the only way to make these things become highly adoptable would be either to lower their price of entry (less likely) or remove leasing as an option (more likely), aka put a positive spin on something essentially that is negative cost wise to the customer and always market it as "Simple, Value inducing, and hassle-free, or Volvo-Plus/Select". Buzzwords galore
I dont think many people will get Volvo S60 for $900 subscription, it might work for first few months on the market, certainly wont later on... and they wont be able to drop the price a lot because then they will make less money than with traditional leasing.
06-24-18, 09:41 AM
#39
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whole point of automakers doing subscription service is to make them more money. If it does not make them more money, they will not do it.
I dont think many people will get Volvo S60 for $900 subscription, it might work for first few months on the market, certainly wont later on... and they wont be able to drop the price a lot because then they will make less money than with traditional leasing.
I dont think many people will get Volvo S60 for $900 subscription, it might work for first few months on the market, certainly wont later on... and they wont be able to drop the price a lot because then they will make less money than with traditional leasing.
06-25-18, 06:17 AM
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06-25-18, 09:43 AM
#42
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First of all Volvo subscription is not a what you (or at least I) think it is. You can't hot swap the cars, you are still renting ONE car. They just found the fancy word to describe lease + expenses bundle
06-26-18, 09:31 PM
#43
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06-27-18, 10:56 AM
#44
Only 20 of those 2019 Volvo S60 T8 Polestars are coming to America
Volvo said the 2019 Volvo S60 T8 Polestar Engineered was going to be available in "extremely limited quantities," and the company wasn't kidding. It announced that it will only be offering 20 in the United States. That's not even one for every state.
The S60 Polestar Engineered, with its 415 horsepower and 494 pound-feet of torque, also won't be cheap. It will be the most expensive of the S60 models available through the Care by Volvo subscription service. And yes, it will only be available through a subscription. The monthly rate is $1,100 a month, which includes insurance and maintenance. That's $250 more per month than the next most expensive S60 in the program, the S60 T6 AWD R-Design.
If you're still interested in the Polestar Engineered S60, you'd better get your phone fingers ready. It becomes available at 12 p.m. Eastern on June 28 via the Care by Volvo app. With only 20 available, you'll need to be fast.
The S60 Polestar Engineered, with its 415 horsepower and 494 pound-feet of torque, also won't be cheap. It will be the most expensive of the S60 models available through the Care by Volvo subscription service. And yes, it will only be available through a subscription. The monthly rate is $1,100 a month, which includes insurance and maintenance. That's $250 more per month than the next most expensive S60 in the program, the S60 T6 AWD R-Design.
If you're still interested in the Polestar Engineered S60, you'd better get your phone fingers ready. It becomes available at 12 p.m. Eastern on June 28 via the Care by Volvo app. With only 20 available, you'll need to be fast.
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06-27-18, 12:08 PM
#45
Lead Lap
I`m sorry unless ive been out of the loop, what does the polestar exactly offer? Gobs of power routed to the front, electric out back or hopefully soo?