Porsche Taycan (interior revealed post #104)
Also you must think Tesla is standing still waiting for everyone else to catch up.
GM lost 60 billion in one year, then went bankrupt shortly after.
We just have to wait and see.
Think of it this way.
Right now, if you told me the US military could blow the Chinese military out of the water - I'd say I would totally agree with you.
Right now, Tesla certainly has a headstart - but that headstart means little for the future.
Afterall, neither GM nor Toyota Motor Corp could give a hoot about Henry Ford's headstart - right?
However, if you told me the US military will continue to blow the Chinese military out of the water over the next 10 to 15 years - just like that, then I'd say that I'd have to disagree with you.
Over the next 5, 10 and 15 years, anything can happen within the EV industry.
It's just like the Germans versus Toyota Motor Corp or even Hyundai, or Apple vs Samsung vs Huawei, or even iOS vs Android.
Anything can happen buddy.
Regardless of who comes out on top, one thing for certain is that it will be pretty close - just like Benz, Beamer, Audi & Lexus ICEV's today.
If you're desperate and you must buy one today, then go ahead and get a Tesla.
Else, wait for the technology to mature over the next 5/10/15 years - the best is yet to come....
Don't confuse size with innovation. The two have nothing to do with each other. Large companies are great at squandering resources and coming out with an incredibly mediocre product. Happens in every industry, every year.
The Taycan is just the first of many more and much better - to come.
Anything can happen over the next 5 years, as other companies move onto the EV bandwagon.
I have absolutely no idea of what the future holds.
I'm only sitting on the fence.
If you want to be biased towards Tesla, or even Porsche for that matter - go ahead, and enjoy....

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"The Taycan won’t have levels of regen to toggle through, or the accompanying paddle-shifters or shift *****. But it will give drivers a choice to toggle a light amount of lift-off regen on, with actual brake-off regeneration following four scenarios:
- Lift-off recuperation off, coasting
- Lift-off recuperation on
- Auto-recuperation with camera
- Max recuperation, used by all driver-assistance features"
https://www.greencarreports.com/news...-pedal-driving
Why the Porsche Taycan's Two-Speed Gearbox Is Such a Big Deal
Want to improve an EV’s range by 5 percent, or pump up its top speed? Trying shifting gears.

Apart from the Taycan, every production EV uses a single speed transmission, and gets along just fine. Internal combustion engines need a bunch of gears because they have a narrow RPM window within which they can operate efficiently. For electric motors, that window is much wider, so a single speed works for both low-end acceleration and highway driving. It does require some compromise, and so EV makers favor low-end acceleration over Autobahn-worthy top speeds. Where most electrics top out around 125 mph (Tesla limits its cars to 155), the Taycan will touch 161 mph.
As the automakers crowding into this market look to differentiate the dozens of models they’re preparing to roll out, and as electric driving tech continues to evolve, Porsche is unlikely to be the only one making this move. The Taycan’s transmission is an in-house solution, and you can’t just grab a Formula E race car’s multi-speed transmission and plop it in your daily driver. But auto industry supplier ZF is working on its own version of the two-speeder, which it’s looking to sell to any automaker that doesn’t want to choose between low-end torque and top speed glory.
ZF’s approach could give other automakers a chance to eat into some of Tesla's advantage.
“With a two-speed transmission, we can do both,” says Stephan Demmerer, who runs ZF’s E-Mobility engineering division. For automakers willing to take on a bit more complexity, he says, the two-speed setup can either improve an EV’s range by 5 percent, or push its top speed beyond the typical cap.
It does that by improving the conversion rate of battery power to actual wheel power. Every one percentage point in energy conversion efficiency translates into two-percent more range, ZF says. Its two-stage shifter is modular, so it can fit into a range of vehicles, and comes mated to a motor with a maximum power rating of 140 kW. It’s programmed to shift between its two speeds at 43 mph, though the computer can be programmed to make the change at different points based on the route, topography, or the distance the driver hopes to cover before plugging in. Carmakers can use the system to squeeze more range out of a smaller battery—thereby reducing vehicle weight—or pair it with larger batteries to pursue performance, whether it’s racing around a track or towing the family boat.
“There is a real race to compete on the energy efficiency of EVs,” says Venkat Viswanathan, a mechanical engineer at Carnegie Mellon University. “Tesla has remained well ahead in energy efficiency even with their single-speed transmissions, and I think ZF’s approach could give other automakers a chance to eat into some of that advantage.”
The two-speed transmission is only arriving now partly because it’s complicated. Multi-speed transmissions must be robust to deal with the massive amounts of torque that electric motors can generate in a very short period of time, says Shashank Sripad, a mechanical engineer also from Carnegie Mellon. Tesla tried it with its proof of concept Roadster more than a decade ago, but ran into reliability challenges and has stuck with single-speeds ever since. And because they require more maintenance, these gearboxes risk undercutting the EV selling point of minimal upkeep costs.
Unless you’ve got the cash to drop on a shiny new Porsche Taycan, you’ll have to wait a bit for this new tech. ZF hasn’t announced who will be using the new transmission yet, and Demmerer says it likely won’t hit the market for another three years, given that his team just wrapped up the advanced engineering work. But the shift is coming.
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Not sure I have the confidence in VW to catch up to Tesla as fast as they think. Are they going to have 350 mi range cars as nice as a Model 3 under $35K in a few years? We'll see.














