2019 bmw x5
#76
Lexus Champion
#77
A lot of what's been said (including my experience and seeing BMW ROs compared to Lexus ROs) is anecdotal. But you can search for used car values on Autotrader for objective data.
The cheapest 5 year old, 2013 7 series (all models) with any mileage you can buy are in the 18,000 dollar range and up.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/BMW/7+Series/Washington+DC-20001?zip=20001&startYear=2013&numRecords=25&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&firstRecord=0&seriesCodeList=7_SERIES&endYear=2019&makeCodeList=BMW&searchRadius=0
The cheapest 5 year old, 2013 LS 460 with any mileage you can buy are in the 25,000 dollar range and up.
When you search on Autotrader, you may see some "OffLeaseOnly" cars, every one of which has a bad Carfax or history. I block their ads.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/Lexus/LS+460/Washington+DC-20001?zip=20001&startYear=2013&numRecords=25&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=LS460&makeCodeList=LEXUS&searchRadius=0
Lexus has a strong resale advantage over "the ultimate driving machine".
The cheapest 5 year old, 2013 7 series (all models) with any mileage you can buy are in the 18,000 dollar range and up.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/BMW/7+Series/Washington+DC-20001?zip=20001&startYear=2013&numRecords=25&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&firstRecord=0&seriesCodeList=7_SERIES&endYear=2019&makeCodeList=BMW&searchRadius=0
The cheapest 5 year old, 2013 LS 460 with any mileage you can buy are in the 25,000 dollar range and up.
When you search on Autotrader, you may see some "OffLeaseOnly" cars, every one of which has a bad Carfax or history. I block their ads.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/Lexus/LS+460/Washington+DC-20001?zip=20001&startYear=2013&numRecords=25&sortBy=derivedpriceASC&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=LS460&makeCodeList=LEXUS&searchRadius=0
Lexus has a strong resale advantage over "the ultimate driving machine".
Last edited by Chocolate; 06-15-18 at 10:30 PM.
#78
Lexus Test Driver
A lot of what's been said (including my experience and seeing BMW ROs compared to Lexus ROs) is anecdotal. But you can search for used car values on Autotrader for objective data.
The cheapest 5 year old, 2013 7 series (all models) with any mileage you can buy are in the 18,000 dollar range and up.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...searchRadius=0
The cheapest 5 year old, 2013 LS 460 with any mileage you can buy are in the 25,000 dollar range and up.
When you search on Autotrader, you may see some "OffLeaseOnly" cars, every one of which has a bad Carfax or history. I block their ads.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...searchRadius=0
Lexus has a strong resale advantage over "the ultimate driving machine".
The cheapest 5 year old, 2013 7 series (all models) with any mileage you can buy are in the 18,000 dollar range and up.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...searchRadius=0
The cheapest 5 year old, 2013 LS 460 with any mileage you can buy are in the 25,000 dollar range and up.
When you search on Autotrader, you may see some "OffLeaseOnly" cars, every one of which has a bad Carfax or history. I block their ads.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...searchRadius=0
Lexus has a strong resale advantage over "the ultimate driving machine".
Im sure LS has better resale than a RollsRoyce too?
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Lexus Champion
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Lexus Fanatic
#83
Lead Lap
In its base form the X5 and RX share inherently seek the same type of buyer a person who just wants something much more prestigious then a normal Toyota highlander or GM mid size crossover. Platforms aside they provide that. The X5 and the RX totally go their separate ways once you get a buyer who wants more then the prestige and wants to tick more boxes. The X5 can be a sharp sword while driving, while the RX can be a reliable luxury bed. Each vehicle cannot cover both markets, but I doubt anyone wants to sleep on a sword?
#84
Lexus Champion
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In its base form the X5 and RX share inherently seek the same type of buyer a person who just wants something much more prestigious then a normal Toyota highlander or GM mid size crossover. Platforms aside they provide that. The X5 and the RX totally go their separate ways once you get a buyer who wants more then the prestige and wants to tick more boxes. The X5 can be a sharp sword while driving, while the RX can be a reliable luxury bed. Each vehicle cannot cover both markets, but I doubt anyone wants to sleep on a sword?
#85
Lexus Fanatic
#86
Lexus Champion
iTrader: (3)
RX and MDX are similar, but at least MDX has a very advanced AWD system, while the RX is basically FWD with AWD option being an afterthought.
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Lexus Fanatic
#88
Lexus Fanatic
So the cars they sell overwhelmingly the most of aren’t “real Lexuses”? What sense does that make? You just named 3/4 of all the units Lexus sells lol
#89
Lexus Fanatic
#90
Lexus Champion
Perhaps we need to think of it this way...
Real Toyota (courtesy of NetCarShow.com):
Not real Toyota (courtesy of Auto123.com):