Anybody who say's G90 interior is better is only lying to themselves. I agree that the G90's interior is really good for the asking price of 80,000 tops. But the Lexus LS500's upgraded interior is on a different level in terms of design and ingenuity(especially the door panels). Also people needs to stop quabblingabout one or two negative point that this car has, one being the rear legroom(I noticed that this has been going on ever since the MT review came out). I don't think it matters that much anymore, personally I think its more than enough of the average buyer who is not being chauffeured around. To me the car looked amazing in person and the one that I saw on the road couple of weeks ago, the LS500 has really good presence in my opinion. Finally I saw this video on you-tube couple of weeks ago, The interior of the car is portrayed really well through this. It has a really nice vibe to it.

 

I did the same thing at the Vancouver auto show last week and I just can't agree.

First off, there is absolutely NOTHING impressive about Genesis, I don't know why people keep harping about that. The G90 has an interior par for its price point, that being a noticeable step down from the German 3 and Lexus. This is in both materials and design. The design has zero originality, it is a combination of various cars. What impresses here? They have not taken any risks, there is nothing that stands out, there is no wow. It's a generic luxury car made with materials that make sense for the price.

The LS500 I sat in was the hybrid model, and the interior is just beautiful. The ambient lighting is beautifully executed, the top of the door panels are soft leather, softer than any other car in its segment. The quilted suede door inserts are beautifully crafted, and the arm rests with the integrated ambient lighting are to die for. The dashboard design is amazing as well. There is a level of design, attention to detail, and craftsmanship here that blows away the G90, and IMO, was even better than the S-class and 7er they had on the show floor (these are the real models people buy, not the designo, AMG, Alpina models they advertise). I did not go into the LS expecting much and indeed the exterior disappointed, but I can't agree with your assessment of the interior.

And the same goes for the LC500. These are beautifully made cars and a return to form for Lexus - that being a step above the average competition in key areas.

Too bad I can only say this about these two cars for Lexus. The rest of the car lineup needs dire attention. The ugly SUVs though seem to be selling well.

 

I said, in an earlier post, that I had not seen the new LS50 interior close-up (except for images) or sat in it....and that I was keeping an open mind until I do. But almost everything about the G90 (especially the hardware/materials) deeply impressed me (yes, I did a test-drive). My only beefs were the electronic shifter (The G80's conventional shifter is more intuitive) and the low-speed ride comfort, which, to the seat of my pants, wasn't quite as silky as I had hoped.

 

 

I have sat in the G90 at a car show. The interior is positively nice but its a mishmash of old design from various manufactures and I also like seeing the G90 on the road it is big. But Genesis as a brand is not groundbreaking like Lexus did in 1989. For example look at G90's Dash its a combination of Lexus and Audi. They designed this car without passion or without thinking where they want to take Genesis as a brand. This is the main reason why I am starting to like Lexus more, they are taking a different approach in terms of design and its implementation going forward, this time around. I plan on checking out the LS when taking my es300h for service.

 

 

The G90 may have unispiring interior/exterior design but by no means is any aspect of this new model at all subpar or ugly. The LS 500 starts at $75K and runs up to well over $100K. Many LS 500s appear to be priced into the "88s" and beyond. The G90's spread is between $69 - $75K. That is very important. You get more value for money on the G90. Lexus may want to start dealing on those $100K units this year.

Already we have three CL members who have either driven, tested and seriously looked at the G90 - now one owns a G90, another strongly considered it but liked the Lexus badge appeal and a third is one of our car reviewers.

The top model gets you an awd V8. That's the difference, and you don't even need that V8 - but they offer it anyway. I think a few consumers are going to pocket the $25K and worry less about badge and bragging rights, and just drive a comfy cruiser which can handle corners. This is just the starting point for the G90. The next generation is already underway and Lexus should be careful. Somebody's nipping at their heels.

What's the worse that can happen to the G90; it doesn't sell so dealers discount steeply to move inventory? Somebody is going to get a very nice luxury sedan for some nice money.

 

 

I agree the Lexus stand was a relative ghost town compared to the MB and BMW stand right next to it. It was quite embarassing really. There were so much dead space between cars they could have done with a smaller show area and would have made the sparse foot traffic that much less obvious. No one cared about the "Limited Edition" GSF and they were promoting the "Limited Edition" RCF and maybe 4 people stood around to listen to the talking head on the rotating stand.

I've sat in the LS500 and Hybrid and various MB and BMWs and I can honest say the interior quality is up there with the S class. BMW is just a metal box full of plastic fantastic and hard leather or pleather or whatever it is made out of. The LS is a little tighter inside than the 460, but perfectly fine for 4 people. I suppose it's the trend right now with car design. Everything is more intimate and sporty leaving the SUVs and Crossovers to be the people movers.

 

imho it likely dates back to 1989, that Lexus has been quite dissimilar to MB and BMW. Just look at their events, and launches.

Ok so I seem to have been scratched off the 7 Series list since the F came out (unless they didn't do one for the G), but that was held in a fancy gallery with alcohol and expensive catering, with the car under a cover. Ditto for the E90 in spring 2005. My buddy got on a ferry which sailed around Liberty Island.

For the LS500? I got an email saying to stop by the dealership for some light refreshments. That's it? hahahahahaha

BMW had a golf outing at the Cricket Club (I admit they are poorly organized by some co. out of Greenwich CT, lately with no confirmation/follow-up after registration), next thing you know the following Monday I got an email, sorry we missed you hahahahaha

My point is you would think that Lexus sells itself, or doesn't require any marketing, because you don't really see much going on. So it would not surprise me to see no interest in their area of an auto show. Naysayers will never understand why people ooooh and ahhhhhh over a FWD BMW X1, yet have zero interest in NXt200's. BMW could push a 2 cyl. 1WD car and people would buy it and love it.

 

I can see the service valet going away when they have their own dealerships. Not to sound like a snob, but if you've bought an $80k Genesis, I highly doubt you want to be sitting in the same service area next to the guy that just bought a $18k Elantra or whatever they have these days.

 

that really wouldn't bother me. i get the ego appeal of sitting in the fancy dealership service area with botoxed tennis moms and guys pretending to 'work' but i'm over all that.

 

 

I like the look and design of the G90 interior much more then the LS500, I just don't care for the design of the new LS and I am clearly not alone. I am not in the market for either one so I am not biased, in the future I think I will go for a V8 G90 as my next car though. I have not sat in the new LS yet or felt the materials so I can't say for sure if there are improvements, I stood right next to one at the dealership, from the looks it did not strike me as being very special or high quality and it had a price tag of over 100K. The exterior design did not get any better to me when I saw it in person either, still has the same problems from the pictures as it looks more like a stretched Nissan Altima to me. I think the G90 looks more elegant and has a nicer look even though it does not take as much risks as the new LS in design.

Maybe there is a bigger difference in a upgraded Luxury package or UL but those are very expensive rare package upgrades most buyers are not going to go with and the one I looked at was priced over 100K so it probably had the Luxury package.

 

You can say the same thing about spending 100K+ for a Lexus LS yet having to sit in the same service area next to a guy that bought a much less expensive lower end CT, HS, soccer moms who bought a RX, ES, or NX. What about having to sit next to the person that only paid 15K for a used Lexus model? I want to be at the dealership as little as possible no matter what I own, frankly there are times I don't like sitting next to some snobs and elitists who buy really expensive cars and often try to let you know they can buy those types of cars by how they act and how they treat other people. I often took my Lexus to a Toyota dealership because they normaly charged half to less then half of what the Lexus dealership was charging and I had no problem sitting next to people who bought Toyota's especially when I am saving a lot of money, I prefer DIY to save the most money, don't like being gouged at dealerships for simple maintenance and repairs.