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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 07:40 AM
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Seeing those videos where the Honda and Toyota awds could not pull themselves up an incline, really changed my opinion on them. Has Toyota done anything to improve the AWD system? imho there should be some disclosure on how these systems perform....otherwise buyers may get them thinking they are good in foul weather, only to find they are stuck...

That's an excellent point. You usually don't see that kind of embarrassing performance in the snow with the Subaru Symmetrical AWD systems or the (older) Audi Quattros, although the new Quattro systems are markedly different from before....torque only on demand.

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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 08:27 AM
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That's an excellent point. You usually don't see that kind of embarrassing performance in the snow with the Subaru Symmetrical AWD systems or the (older) Audi Quattros, although the new Quqttro systems are markedly different from before....torque only on demand.

I've gotten stuck with my 2011 RX. Only the front wheels spun so I started to wonder if the dealer sold me a front wheel drive version instead.
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I've gotten stuck with my 2011 RX. Only the front wheels spun so I started to wonder if the dealer sold me a front wheel drive version instead.
Easy way to tell. If you have a differential lock then you have an AWD version. If its a blank then you have FWD. (Next to traction off button)

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Originally Posted by Johnhav430
Seeing those videos where the Honda and Toyota awds could not pull themselves up an incline, really changed my opinion on them. Has Toyota done anything to improve the AWD system? imho there should be some disclosure on how these systems perform....otherwise buyers may get them thinking they are good in foul weather, only to find they are stuck...
depending on what you need them for, they work fine. Even in Hybrids, which have really only small e-power in the rear, you can go through normal winter problems.
But if you live in area where you have to climb some snow banks like they do in testing, obviously these cheap cuvs with part time wont do well.

Heck I was fine on my IS220d RWD this winter on a mountain, even with some uncleared roads, it required some managment on the uphill but nothing out of ordinary.
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Easy way to tell. If you have a differential lock then you have an AWD version. If its a blank then you have FWD. (Next to traction off button)
Or, just simply look under the car and see if there is a fore/aft driveshaft and rear-differential going to the rear wheels. That's the most foolproof way of all, though stooping or bending down that low can be difficult for some people.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Or, just simply look under the car and see if there is a fore/aft driveshaft and rear-differential going to the rear wheels. That's the most foolproof way of all, though stooping or bending down that low can be difficult for some people.
lmao yeah ok tell that to the poor old lady who has to get down on her hands and feet to look at the undercarriage and has no clue what she's looking at, when one could simply peer though the window or open the door to see if the car has the locking diff. (applicable to the Lexus RX we're talking about)
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Old Jan 25, 2018 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
lmao yeah ok tell that to the poor old lady who has to get down on her hands and feet to look at the undercarriage and has no clue what she's looking at, when one could simply peer though the window or open the door to see if the car has the locking diff. (applicable to the Lexus RX we're talking about)
Well, that's why I said it would be difficult for some people. I wasn't implying that an 80-year old woman should do it....in fact, most of the time, I'm glad to help out older people myself, even though I'm no spring chicken.

But you also have a flaw in your argument. An old person with bad eyesight and/or limited auto-knowledge is not likely to know what a differential-lock switch or drive-mode **** is, either.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Well, that's why I said it would be difficult for some people. I wasn't implying that an 80-year old woman should do it....in fact, most of the time, I'm glad to help out older people myself, even though I'm no spring chicken.

But you also have a flaw in your argument. An old person with bad eyesight and/or limited auto-knowledge is not likely to know what a differential-lock switch or drive-mode **** is, either.
Which is why I said it was applicable to the RX and the member who asked about it
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Easy way to tell. If you have a differential lock then you have an AWD version. If its a blank then you have FWD. (Next to traction off button)
I know I was just pointing out how useless these supposed AWD systems are.
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Definitely looks like it'll take cues from the FT-AC concept car



I agree, mixed in with the prior gen's front end.

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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 09:09 AM
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https://www.carscoops.com/2018/02/fu...xt-generation/

If it actually looks somewhat like this, I’ll be impressed.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 09:17 AM
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That looks slick.
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https://www.carscoops.com/2018/02/fu...xt-generation/

If it actually looks somewhat like this, I’ll be impressed.
The back reminds me of the Rogue.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 12:39 PM
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Doesn't it look like the production version of the FT-AC concept which i thought is going to be an all new vehicle positioned between the Rav4 and Highlander / 4runner ?

If this how the new Rav4 ends up looking i will be impressed !
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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 01:49 PM
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Shove the V6 back in there!!!!!! This being quite a few hundred pounds lighter than the Highlander, it will totally rock!
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