Stinger GT AWD Limited - Owner Review and Comparison to Lexus & Audi
01-10-18, 09:54 PM
#47
(eye catching part: $26,985 MSRP $35,995)
fine print though...
first, the MSRP for the 4 cyl stinger is $31,900.
second, because it's lease pricing, it's hard to know what other shenanigans will ultimately go into an actual lease deal.
third, i assume by "special test market pricing" they mean "anything to get you in the door".
fine print though...
first, the MSRP for the 4 cyl stinger is $31,900.
second, because it's lease pricing, it's hard to know what other shenanigans will ultimately go into an actual lease deal.
third, i assume by "special test market pricing" they mean "anything to get you in the door".
01-11-18, 06:13 AM
#48
Lexus Fanatic
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thanks for explanation.
01-11-18, 06:30 AM
#49
Lexus Fanatic
haha of course this has been the case since the beginning of time...I bought a Nissan Maxima brand new in 1998. List was $29,400, sell was $22,700. Anyone who had a pulse got such a deal.
But in the newspaper, such cars would be thousands less than the above. They had brand new Maxima GXEs advertised for $14,995. Brand new, 1998. So I said they're on, I'm going to see what's up. Go to this dealer on Queens Blvd., and I had to wait because none of the available sales people spoke English, they spoke other languages and the English speaking ones were all busy.
Here's how it went: "You got this car for $14,995?"
"Yep."
"Can I buy it?"
"Yes, by law, I cannot advertise something I do not have."
"Ok, I want to buy it."
"Ok, I am going to have to get it from my Long Island warehouse, that will take about 6 hours. But in the meantime, we can get started with the paperwork and I'll call them to send the car."
"Oh, you mean I have to finance it through the dealer?"
"Yeah, for that price."
"But 13%, Nissan is doing 5.9%?"
"Let me be honest with you, you don't want this car, it's not worth your time for me to sell it to you. That price is to get you into the dealer so I can sell you a more expensive car."
I never bought it there, and went elsewhere.
But in the newspaper, such cars would be thousands less than the above. They had brand new Maxima GXEs advertised for $14,995. Brand new, 1998. So I said they're on, I'm going to see what's up. Go to this dealer on Queens Blvd., and I had to wait because none of the available sales people spoke English, they spoke other languages and the English speaking ones were all busy.
Here's how it went: "You got this car for $14,995?"
"Yep."
"Can I buy it?"
"Yes, by law, I cannot advertise something I do not have."
"Ok, I want to buy it."
"Ok, I am going to have to get it from my Long Island warehouse, that will take about 6 hours. But in the meantime, we can get started with the paperwork and I'll call them to send the car."
"Oh, you mean I have to finance it through the dealer?"
"Yeah, for that price."
"But 13%, Nissan is doing 5.9%?"
"Let me be honest with you, you don't want this car, it's not worth your time for me to sell it to you. That price is to get you into the dealer so I can sell you a more expensive car."
I never bought it there, and went elsewhere.
01-11-18, 12:54 PM
#50
haha of course this has been the case since the beginning of time...I bought a Nissan Maxima brand new in 1998. List was $29,400, sell was $22,700. Anyone who had a pulse got such a deal.
But in the newspaper, such cars would be thousands less than the above. They had brand new Maxima GXEs advertised for $14,995. Brand new, 1998. So I said they're on, I'm going to see what's up. Go to this dealer on Queens Blvd., and I had to wait because none of the available sales people spoke English, they spoke other languages and the English speaking ones were all busy.
Here's how it went: "You got this car for $14,995?"
"Yep."
"Can I buy it?"
"Yes, by law, I cannot advertise something I do not have."
"Ok, I want to buy it."
"Ok, I am going to have to get it from my Long Island warehouse, that will take about 6 hours. But in the meantime, we can get started with the paperwork and I'll call them to send the car."
"Oh, you mean I have to finance it through the dealer?"
"Yeah, for that price."
"But 13%, Nissan is doing 5.9%?"
"Let me be honest with you, you don't want this car, it's not worth your time for me to sell it to you. That price is to get you into the dealer so I can sell you a more expensive car."
I never bought it there, and went elsewhere.
But in the newspaper, such cars would be thousands less than the above. They had brand new Maxima GXEs advertised for $14,995. Brand new, 1998. So I said they're on, I'm going to see what's up. Go to this dealer on Queens Blvd., and I had to wait because none of the available sales people spoke English, they spoke other languages and the English speaking ones were all busy.
Here's how it went: "You got this car for $14,995?"
"Yep."
"Can I buy it?"
"Yes, by law, I cannot advertise something I do not have."
"Ok, I want to buy it."
"Ok, I am going to have to get it from my Long Island warehouse, that will take about 6 hours. But in the meantime, we can get started with the paperwork and I'll call them to send the car."
"Oh, you mean I have to finance it through the dealer?"
"Yeah, for that price."
"But 13%, Nissan is doing 5.9%?"
"Let me be honest with you, you don't want this car, it's not worth your time for me to sell it to you. That price is to get you into the dealer so I can sell you a more expensive car."
I never bought it there, and went elsewhere.
01-13-18, 04:47 PM
#51
The pursuit of F
Thread Starter
Thanks for all the comments everyone! And to some of the critics, of course I'm in the honeymoon phase 
but you have to ask yourselves how can a Kia get someone who just owned luxury cars for several years, traded them and is sitting in one!
Metaphors aside, I was as objective as possible (Pros + Cons) in my first week of ownership. And of course, reliability and how the car feels in the long run is still up in the air. Time will tell and anyone who is interested can PM me or wait for my feedback in a few months from now on an update.
but you have to ask yourselves how can a Kia get someone who just owned luxury cars for several years, traded them and is sitting in one!Metaphors aside, I was as objective as possible (Pros + Cons) in my first week of ownership. And of course, reliability and how the car feels in the long run is still up in the air. Time will tell and anyone who is interested can PM me or wait for my feedback in a few months from now on an update.
Last edited by corradoMR2; 01-13-18 at 05:00 PM.
01-13-18, 05:04 PM
#52
Thanks for all the comments everyone! And to some of the critics, of course I'm in the honeymoon phase but you have to ask yourselves how can a Kia get someone who just owned luxury cars for several years, traded them and is sitting in one!
Metaphors aside, I was as objective as possible (Pros + Cons) in my first week of ownership. And of course, reliability and how the car feels in the long run is still up in the air. Time will tell and anyone who is interested can PM me or wait for my feedback in a few months from now on an update.
but you have to ask yourselves how can a Kia get someone who just owned luxury cars for several years, traded them and is sitting in one!Metaphors aside, I was as objective as possible (Pros + Cons) in my first week of ownership. And of course, reliability and how the car feels in the long run is still up in the air. Time will tell and anyone who is interested can PM me or wait for my feedback in a few months from now on an update.
My problem here in Europe is that KIA doesnt have their own finance company so their lease would be from regular bank and resale is likely crazy bad. Then again there is always a 2 years wait to get used one at really low pricing, but the problem is still selling it later (or should we say gifting it). Also their diesel which is a must, is nothing special for this kind of vehicle.
How much would you like the vehicle if it had 200hp engine?
01-13-18, 05:29 PM
#53
Lexus Fanatic
Went to the mall today and met up with my cousin and his wife. They have a "Stinger Store" there with a red Stinger, much like a mall Tesla store. Showed them the Stinger and they loved it, their reaction...."thats a Kia?!?!"
They'll be doing test drives at the mall too, same as the Tesla store does.
They'll be doing test drives at the mall too, same as the Tesla store does.
01-13-18, 05:43 PM
#54
Lexus Champion
Went to the mall today and met up with my cousin and his wife. They have a "Stinger Store" there with a red Stinger, much like a mall Tesla store. Showed them the Stinger and they loved it, their reaction...."thats a Kia?!?!"
They'll be doing test drives at the mall too, same as the Tesla store does.
They'll be doing test drives at the mall too, same as the Tesla store does.
01-13-18, 05:45 PM
#55
Lexus Fanatic
I think they're available at all dealerships, this is a special retail store in the mall just to showcase the car, such as what Tesla does.
01-13-18, 05:59 PM
#56
Lexus Champion
https://www.kia.com/us/k3/content/me...showcasing.pdf
01-13-18, 06:05 PM
#57
Lexus Fanatic
Interesting, I didn’t know that either...
01-13-18, 06:17 PM
#58
The mall store concept was new to me too. I looked up Kia Stinger dealers and this came up indicating selected dealers only. I noticed that a couple I'm familiar with in my area weren't on the list and a couple of others were.
https://www.kia.com/us/k3/content/me...showcasing.pdf
https://www.kia.com/us/k3/content/me...showcasing.pdf
The shopping mall store seems like a great way to get people into these cars, particularly the Genesis G90. Cheaper showrooms than a complete dealership with very high traffic. Since they have a valet pick-up your car for service, the service departments could be anywhere including the Hyundai dealership.
01-13-18, 08:24 PM
#59
Lexus Fanatic
The shopping mall store seems like a great way to get people into these cars, particularly the Genesis G90. Cheaper showrooms than a complete dealership with very high traffic. Since they have a valet pick-up your car for service, the service departments could be anywhere including the Hyundai dealership.
01-14-18, 06:28 AM
#60
Lexus Champion
I've read that the new thing at struggling malls is to get alternative retail and recreation concepts in vacant locations. I bet you are correct that the space can be rented at bargain rates.