GoHuskers

Hi folks,

I have an opportunity to swap a new set of oem Bridgestone Ecopia HL 422 plus for a set of Michelin Premier LTX in 235/55/20. I just have to pay for labor of 140 bucks and I'm fine with that. This is for a 2017 RX350 AWD.

is the Michelin better than the Ecopia? Would you do it? Your experience?

Thanks in advance.

Toys4RJill

my 4Runner has Michelin Cross Terrian and our Lx450 has LTX. I have always liked the brand. They do tend to last a long long time. What is the traction and temp rating on the Bridgestone tires? I don't think I have ever seen Michelin have anything less than A and A

GoHuskers

This is the Ecopia. 102V with 600 A A rating
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...D&autoModClar=

This is the Premier LTX. 102V with 620 A A rating
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...D&autoModClar=

Allen K

iTrader: (4)

I just put a set of the Premier LTX on my wife's CX-5 and they drive well. I'm a Michelin fanboy so I'd probably make the swap

Toys4RJill

They look like they are both good tires. I would prefer Michelin.

Sulu

Funny that when I click on Compare Ratings for All Tires in This Category for either the Michelin or the Bridgestone, 5 tires are listed, with the Michelin as the best of the 5 but the Bridgestone Ecopia does not appear on the list. Perhaps it has not yet been tested by Tire Rack?

Coleroad

I don't see a $140 point in doing the swap. It just doesn't make much sense to me. While I like most Michelin tires compared to most Bridgestone's. I personally wouldn't, I don't see the $140 value.

tex2670

Tire Rack rates both very closely to each other.

GoHuskers

the reason I asked here is because I so not see the ecopia rated on tirerack at all.

kitlz

I didn't pay anything to have my dealer swap out the Bridgestones for Michelins on my '16 RXh. There was another F-Sport on the lot with them. They switched out the rims and tires. Go with Michelin, the Premiers were designed for the RX. And we have a thread in the 4RX forum on the Bridgestones here.

mmarshall

As far as I'm concerned, Michelin and Continental, in general, set the tire-industry standard.

tex2670

They are. I just went through this with my CX-9. Tire Rack categorizes them as "Crossover/SUV Touring All Season". Personally, I ended up with the General Altimax RT43, at 1/2 the price, and nearly the same ratings as the Michelin and Ecopias.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Dueler+H%2FL+422+Ecopia&partnum=45VR0HL422&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Mazda&autoYear=2012&autoModel=CX-9&autoModClar=Grand%20Touring%20AWD

Aron9000

Are you not happy with the Bridgestones???? That would be the only reason I'd do it, if I weren't happy with what's on there.

Sulu

That is the Bridgestone Dueler H/L 422 Ecopia, not the Ecopia H/L 422 Plus (https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...H%2FL+422+Plus), which is "Not Yet Rated". They may be similar tires but not the same. It looks like the Ecopia H/L 422 Plus is a new tire by Bridgestone.

GoHuskers

Thank you all for the responses I got the tires swapped and all is good. I have never owned a Bridgestone tire but my sister's GX460 has it and I don't "like" its look. Out of the 6 Lexus I have owned, 4 came with Michelin and they were fine, one came with Dunlop (worst) and one came with Yoko (meh). Also, when 2 RX'es are parked next to each other, the Premier looks "bigger and better" comparing to the Ecopia even though they are the same size.

PS. wanted to go with 255/50/R20 but the dealer said I have to buy a NEW set and sell the current set (in 235/55/20) myself. The total cost for 4 Michelin in 255/50/20 will be $1150. This is definitely NOT worth it.