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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 07:31 AM
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I would still take the imperfect remote touch over a touchscreen.
each to their own but i completely disagree.
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Remote touch is fine. Software behind it blows
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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 01:16 PM
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Remote touch is fine. Software behind it blows
the software of the land cruiser touch and the LX are the same are they not?
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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 02:24 PM
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Remote touch is fine. Software behind it blows
Mouse controller and hand/arm rest take up way too much space.
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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 02:28 PM
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Of all the ones I've played around with, I've found Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler's U-connect touch screen to be the easiest to use. U-connect also doesn't lag or act glitchy in any way. Only nitpick, maybe a minor one is that the graphics aren't quite as good looking as some other systems out there like Tesla's.

BMW, Benz, and Audi's that use the "****" have a definite learning curve to them. Took me a couple of days to get really comfortable with the "****" system on a 2015(or maybe it was a 2016) Benz GL, but once I kind of figured it out, had the "muscle memory" down so to speak, it was pretty straightforward. The Lexus mouse, that's just a horrible idea, very finicky and hard to use for no reason IMO.

As far as the "look", the Tesla model S screen is great, and I really dig the new Audis that put a screen in where your gauges used to be. I like how that Audi system, you can configure it several different ways, big gauges, big map, big map and little gauges, its pretty sweet.
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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by coolsaber
Oh of course. However for a company that totally shunned touschreens in favor of controls since it "didnt want its drivers to lean forward to change settings" the addition of a touchscreen is a HUGE DEAL.
Maybe--except that, with the F-Generation of BMWs, and now with the G-Generations, the screen is not set back in the dash hood, so there's no longer a "reach" to the screen. My 328 doesn't have the touch screen--there are certain functions where it would be nice, but the iDrive controller is simple and easy to use, even without looking for certain functions.
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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 04:24 PM
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Out of all the interfaces i've used so far in my short time with rental vehicles- i found the Mazda 6 rotary **** interface to be very easy to use. The software was extremely snappy, no lag like there is on my IS.

The problem with lexus is two fold- the interface is wacky, and the software driving it is slow as heck. Inputting an address is infuriating and as far as I'm concerned its a broken feature.

Been living in Japan for a few months and I noticed that most JDM rental cars here have aftermarket double-din nav systems that are much easier to use. The Toyota Mark X (basically a stretched IS250) I drove had a very nice center stack, with a Pioneer/Denso ( I forget which) touchscreen nav interface that was a pleasure to use. I wish auto makers would stop messing around with dumb interfaces and just give us the ability to put an aftermarket double din without jumping thru hoops or disabling car's functionality.
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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
I would still take the imperfect remote touch over a touchscreen.
Originally Posted by bitkahuna
each to their own but i completely disagree.
With respect to a PC desktop and laptop, I prefer the traditional mechanical keyboard & mouse - so that I can type hundreds of words/minute.

With a compact cell phone/smart phone, I prefer the capacitive touchscreen pioneered by iPhone, as the original mechanical five way navigation control of 1990's Palm Pilot is inefficient and well and truly passé.

With a car, presently I have both touch screens in 3GS and 5-way remote touch in 4GS, however I must say I prefer the touchscreens, and the touchscreens need not have a very high mount, because these days, head up displays HUD's is already provided.
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Old Sep 4, 2017 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Aron9000
The Lexus mouse, that's just a horrible idea, very finicky and hard to use for no reason IMO.

I have to agree......the Lexus mouse-control has never been my cup of tea either, though I did consider an ES350 recently for a purchase. It's OK on a glass-smooth road, but bumps and wavy surfaces can make it quite difficult to use and center.

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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
the software of the land cruiser touch and the LX are the same are they not?
No idea, all I know is that it's laggy and frustrating to use.

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
Mouse controller and hand/arm rest take up way too much space.
I find the arm rest comfortable so I don't mind
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
the software of the land cruiser touch and the LX are the same are they not?
I assume they are at least quite similar.

The software on my Highlander (Entune) and my GS350 (Enform) are essentially the same.
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I have to agree......the Lexus mouse-control has never been my cup of tea either, though I did consider an ES350 recently for a purchase. It's OK on a glass-smooth road, but bumps and wavy surfaces can make it quite difficult to use and center.
I actually find the remote touch easier on rough surfaces, because you can steady your hand on the wrist-wrest. On my Highlander, there isn't a good place to steady your hand as you are making inputs to the touch screen, so it's worse on a bumpy road.
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Old Sep 5, 2017 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
I actually find the remote touch easier on rough surfaces, because you can steady your hand on the wrist-wrest. On my Highlander, there isn't a good place to steady your hand as you are making inputs to the touch screen, so it's worse on a bumpy road.
+1. Though, with the mouse, you have to set the feedback decently high so that bumps don't cause it to move around.
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