Ford Taurus.....the forgotten full-size sedan.
#16
Lexus Champion
I'm probably the only one who's seen a seventh gen Taurus... In China, of all places. I thought I was looking at a Mondeo on steroids until I saw the Taurus badge on the back. The car looks almost exactly like the Mondeo/Fusion but with a more squared front and a longer boot. It looks a heck of a lot better than the current Taurus.
Apparently it was designed by Ford Australia and manufactured by the Ford licensee Changan Auto. Maybe they're selling it as a competitor to the Buick LaCrosse and Lexus ES. Engine choices include a 1.5 turbo, a 2.0 turbo and that stonking 2.7 V6 EcoBoost.
Apparently it was designed by Ford Australia and manufactured by the Ford licensee Changan Auto. Maybe they're selling it as a competitor to the Buick LaCrosse and Lexus ES. Engine choices include a 1.5 turbo, a 2.0 turbo and that stonking 2.7 V6 EcoBoost.
The new Taurus does look like the current Fusion/Mondeo but it looks like the wheelbase and rear door have been stretched.
#17
Lexus Test Driver
Yeah, the new Taurus is based on the same platform as the Mondeo. It's interesting that the Chinese name is 金牛座, or golden cow constellation, the direct translation for Taurus in the Chinese zodiac.
More pix below from autohome.com.cn:
More pix below from autohome.com.cn:
#19
Lexus Champion
They're a rare site these days.
As for police, around here it seems like the Explorer and Chevy Caprice are the most heavily used.
As for police, around here it seems like the Explorer and Chevy Caprice are the most heavily used.
#21
Dysfunctional Veteran
Taaaauuuurus...makin the dream come true (for you)!
Ford has failed greatly with the last three Tauri. If they can get the next model right, it would wake a lot of former fans up. They know how to do the Explorer... they need to get the Taurus right. Increase interior space, get rid of the retro dash styling that no one likes or wants in a modern sedan, and style it a bit edgy. The possibilities are there. The police departments will also invest if done well.
Ford has failed greatly with the last three Tauri. If they can get the next model right, it would wake a lot of former fans up. They know how to do the Explorer... they need to get the Taurus right. Increase interior space, get rid of the retro dash styling that no one likes or wants in a modern sedan, and style it a bit edgy. The possibilities are there. The police departments will also invest if done well.
I own one of these poor misunderstood beasts...'13 SHO, that I got in '14 w/ 10K on the clock for under $30k....look, no question this thing has limitations because of it's ancient architecture ( too heavy, too big for such a small interior, FWD biased AWD, etc.) but Ford did a lot with what they had when it was refreshed in '13. This car has been a stop gap for me until I really decide what I'm doing $$ wise and car wise but let me tell you, I feel like I got a lot of car for the money back in'14.
SHO has a perf. pkg, w/ beefier brakes, suspension upgrades, bigger radiator, an oil cooler, diff cooler, shorter gearing and it all makes a big difference in the car. So, TT v6 w/ 365hp and 350 tq, AWD, sunroof, power rear sunshade, heated/cooled/massaging seats, heated rear seats, heated steering wheel, adjustable brake/gas pedals, HIDs, remote start, remote keypad entry, huge trunk....lot of nice options/car for the money. It's a big cruiser w/ power, sorta the Challenger of the sedan mkt. And for about $1000 for a tune and a few other things, it;'s a 450 HP cruiser. Surprises people.
SHO has a perf. pkg, w/ beefier brakes, suspension upgrades, bigger radiator, an oil cooler, diff cooler, shorter gearing and it all makes a big difference in the car. So, TT v6 w/ 365hp and 350 tq, AWD, sunroof, power rear sunshade, heated/cooled/massaging seats, heated rear seats, heated steering wheel, adjustable brake/gas pedals, HIDs, remote start, remote keypad entry, huge trunk....lot of nice options/car for the money. It's a big cruiser w/ power, sorta the Challenger of the sedan mkt. And for about $1000 for a tune and a few other things, it;'s a 450 HP cruiser. Surprises people.
#22
Lexus Champion
most police departments in CA are way past using "cars", everything around me is either old Crown Victoria's that the department keep rebuilding using the parts from decommissioned Victoria's, or they have switched to the Ford Explorer Police Version.. CA Highway Patrol is 80% Ford Explorer now, with some left over Chargers, LAPD is a mix of Explorers and Victoria's, L.A. Sheriff is a mix of Victoria's and Chargers and the Chargers are being replaced with the Explorers, and the Victoria's are still being rebuilt.
The Chevy SS was never officially released as a police certified vehicle, so if a department has them it is probably pretty rare, GM created the Chevy Caprice Police Patrol Vehicle (PPV) back in 2007-2008, which was basically a beefed up Malibu, my town has 4 of them originally used by the supervisors and now only by code enforcement because the officers complained that they were too small when they were in full tactical gear.
The Taurus was never on the roads in my area as a police cruiser, and in talking to the LEO's I know, and I know quite a few from several departments being most of my neighbors and family are LEOs, the Chargers were dogs; most officers hated them, the majority of them were the V6 models and they had no "bones", the suspension was week and prone to breakage when the officers rode up curbs and over various bumps, dips, and pot holes which make up the streets of L.A. and they tend require brakes every 10K-12K miles where the Victoria's would go 30K-40K.
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I've never seen a Ford Taurus Police Cruiser where I live, nor during my trek across the country last summer, I was surprised to see a lot of early 2000s Chevy Impalas in some of the mid west states, but mostly I saw Ford Explorers and Crown Victoria's and a Few Chevy Caprice Police Editions here and there.
The Chevy SS was never officially released as a police certified vehicle, so if a department has them it is probably pretty rare, GM created the Chevy Caprice Police Patrol Vehicle (PPV) back in 2007-2008, which was basically a beefed up Malibu, my town has 4 of them originally used by the supervisors and now only by code enforcement because the officers complained that they were too small when they were in full tactical gear.
The Taurus was never on the roads in my area as a police cruiser, and in talking to the LEO's I know, and I know quite a few from several departments being most of my neighbors and family are LEOs, the Chargers were dogs; most officers hated them, the majority of them were the V6 models and they had no "bones", the suspension was week and prone to breakage when the officers rode up curbs and over various bumps, dips, and pot holes which make up the streets of L.A. and they tend require brakes every 10K-12K miles where the Victoria's would go 30K-40K.
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I've never seen a Ford Taurus Police Cruiser where I live, nor during my trek across the country last summer, I was surprised to see a lot of early 2000s Chevy Impalas in some of the mid west states, but mostly I saw Ford Explorers and Crown Victoria's and a Few Chevy Caprice Police Editions here and there.
#23
Lexus Fanatic
My mom was just given a '94. She takes care of things and wanted me to shop for a car cover for it. Because, she has always garaged all cars that she's ever owned, and now this one is left outside. Back in the day, I liked the Taurus but I suppose it was too grown up for me, and so I got a '98 Maxima instead (new)....
#25
The Chevy SS was never officially released as a police certified vehicle, so if a department has them it is probably pretty rare, GM created the Chevy Caprice Police Patrol Vehicle (PPV) back in 2007-2008, which was basically a beefed up Malibu, my town has 4 of them originally used by the supervisors and now only by code enforcement because the officers complained that they were too small when they were in full tactical gear.
Anyways, it seems the highway patrol now days has moved on to using Ford Explorers, I'm sure the officers like the extra space in the Explorers, and with the Ecoboost V6 option they would be plenty quick for catching a guy doing 90-100 on the interstate. Still, the brakes/handling really have to suffer using an SUV due to all the extra weight and higher center of gravity. Especially the handling on something like the PPV Tahoe, its a body on frame truck, I really wouldn't want to push that thing on a tight road.
#26
Lexus Champion
The Caprice PPV shares ZERO parts with the Malibu. Its the same RWD chassis as the Chevy SS, both come out of the same plant in Australia, I think the PPV uses the longer wheelbase version of the Commodore chassis. 6.0 liter V8 in the Caprice PPV, only people in my area that really bought them was the TN Highway Patrol. They're great cars for high speed pursuit, fast, high top speed, great brakes, very stable handling, a much better, safer car for driving at high speeds than an Explorer or Tahoe. I could imagine the achilles heel with this car though was getting parts, there wasn't really a civilian version of this car sold in the US, all parts would have to be shipped in from Australia. And we all know how lousy GM is about stocking parts for their vehicles, I could imagine it being even worse with a limited production car made on the other side of the earth.
Anyways, it seems the highway patrol now days has moved on to using Ford Explorers, I'm sure the officers like the extra space in the Explorers, and with the Ecoboost V6 option they would be plenty quick for catching a guy doing 90-100 on the interstate. Still, the brakes/handling really have to suffer using an SUV due to all the extra weight and higher center of gravity. Especially the handling on something like the PPV Tahoe, its a body on frame truck, I really wouldn't want to push that thing on a tight road.
Anyways, it seems the highway patrol now days has moved on to using Ford Explorers, I'm sure the officers like the extra space in the Explorers, and with the Ecoboost V6 option they would be plenty quick for catching a guy doing 90-100 on the interstate. Still, the brakes/handling really have to suffer using an SUV due to all the extra weight and higher center of gravity. Especially the handling on something like the PPV Tahoe, its a body on frame truck, I really wouldn't want to push that thing on a tight road.
honestly I don't know anything about the PPV, my comment was actually the words of a LEO friend who said something along the lines of the interior space, especially the drivers seat was as small as his (personal) Malibu, and the car was nothing more than an over priced beefed up Malibu. The ones in our town are the 3.6L VVT motor, not the V8, and I'm pretty sure they have been discontinued.
#27
Chevy also sold at the same time, alongside the Caprice PPV, the police spec Impala. That shares a lot more parts with the Malibu, W-body chassis, FWD, V6, it was a lot cheaper than the Caprice. Probably did better in fleet service as well due to Chevy cranking out a ton of the Impalas and not changing the design for 10 years, I'm sure parts both from GM, the junkyard, and the aftermarket were a lot easier to come by
#28
Dysfunctional Veteran
most police departments in CA are way past using "cars", everything around me is either old Crown Victoria's that the department keep rebuilding using the parts from decommissioned Victoria's, or they have switched to the Ford Explorer Police Version.. CA Highway Patrol is 80% Ford Explorer now, with some left over Chargers, LAPD is a mix of Explorers and Victoria's, L.A. Sheriff is a mix of Victoria's and Chargers and the Chargers are being replaced with the Explorers, and the Victoria's are still being rebuilt.
The Chevy SS was never officially released as a police certified vehicle, so if a department has them it is probably pretty rare, GM created the Chevy Caprice Police Patrol Vehicle (PPV) back in 2007-2008, which was basically a beefed up Malibu, my town has 4 of them originally used by the supervisors and now only by code enforcement because the officers complained that they were too small when they were in full tactical gear.
The Taurus was never on the roads in my area as a police cruiser, and in talking to the LEO's I know, and I know quite a few from several departments being most of my neighbors and family are LEOs, the Chargers were dogs; most officers hated them, the majority of them were the V6 models and they had no "bones", the suspension was week and prone to breakage when the officers rode up curbs and over various bumps, dips, and pot holes which make up the streets of L.A. and they tend require brakes every 10K-12K miles where the Victoria's would go 30K-40K.
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I've never seen a Ford Taurus Police Cruiser where I live, nor during my trek across the country last summer, I was surprised to see a lot of early 2000s Chevy Impalas in some of the mid west states, but mostly I saw Ford Explorers and Crown Victoria's and a Few Chevy Caprice Police Editions here and there.
The Chevy SS was never officially released as a police certified vehicle, so if a department has them it is probably pretty rare, GM created the Chevy Caprice Police Patrol Vehicle (PPV) back in 2007-2008, which was basically a beefed up Malibu, my town has 4 of them originally used by the supervisors and now only by code enforcement because the officers complained that they were too small when they were in full tactical gear.
The Taurus was never on the roads in my area as a police cruiser, and in talking to the LEO's I know, and I know quite a few from several departments being most of my neighbors and family are LEOs, the Chargers were dogs; most officers hated them, the majority of them were the V6 models and they had no "bones", the suspension was week and prone to breakage when the officers rode up curbs and over various bumps, dips, and pot holes which make up the streets of L.A. and they tend require brakes every 10K-12K miles where the Victoria's would go 30K-40K.
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I've never seen a Ford Taurus Police Cruiser where I live, nor during my trek across the country last summer, I was surprised to see a lot of early 2000s Chevy Impalas in some of the mid west states, but mostly I saw Ford Explorers and Crown Victoria's and a Few Chevy Caprice Police Editions here and there.