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Toyota's next small crossover could be the TJ Cruiser
A trademark application filed with the United States Patent and Trademark Office hints that a vehicle based on the Toyota FT-4X Concept may be headed for production. But it won't be called FT-4X (good riddance). Instead, Toyota may riff on the deceased-but-still-loved FJ Cruiser by naming its smaller 'ute the TJ Cruiser.
Remember, the FJ Cruiser was intended to evoke the memory of Toyota's famed FJ Land Cruiser series, which were (and still are) legendary for their off-road prowess and durability. The FJ had some legitimate off-road chops, too, but don't expect the same kind of mission statement from the TJ Cruiser, if it ever does hit the showroom floor. The FT-4X was marketed toward Millennials – which didn't sit well with some of us – and the TJ Cruiser would likely go down a similar path as a small, utilitarian crossover.
When the TJ Cruiser will actually hit the market is unclear, but since it will likely ride atop Toyota's TNGA C-Platform, which also forms the basis of the C-HR, a solid chunk of the development work should already be done. All we can do now is wait and see.
^ Man I hope not, that concept is one giant pile of ugly. Also looks like if they're faithful to that concept, it could have the same crap visibility that the FJ Cruiser had. I also don't think they should make it look like a legit 4x4 off roader, but its a Corolla under the macho styling. I really wish Toyota would do a small, affordable, off road type of SUV based off the Tacoma. 4Runners now days are too big/expensive IMO.
Count your blessings. Would you rather have to sell Jukes LOL?
I'd rather sell Jukes than this steaming pile . . .
The Juke is a far superior car than this pile of crap from Toyota, which is based on the Corolla. So you get that lame Corolla driving experience, 140hp, CVT, FWD only, and its a lot heavier than a Corolla. The Juke you had AWD options, manual transmissions, standard turbo engine, great handling, heck they even made a Nismo version. I also thought the Juke was a big pile of ugly when it came out, but its kind of grown on me, it does have personality.
Anyways getting back to the Toyota named after a Jeep model(TJ was the chassis code for the 97-2006 Wrangler), I hope they put something respectable under the hood and offer an AWD option. I'm sure the TJ(and C-HR) will sell, about the only SUV sales flops I can think of in the somewhat recent past have been the Acura ZDX, Accord Crosstour, Toyota Venza(that sold okay but they quit making them), and Pontiac Aztek.
I'd rather sell Jukes than this steaming pile . . .
The Juke is a far superior car than this pile of crap from Toyota, which is based on the Corolla. So you get that lame Corolla driving experience, 140hp, CVT, FWD only, and its a lot heavier than a Corolla. The Juke you had AWD options, manual transmissions, standard turbo engine, great handling, heck they even made a Nismo version. I also thought the Juke was a big pile of ugly when it came out, but its kind of grown on me, it does have personality.
Have you driven the new Toyota C-HR? It is NOT based on the Corolla. It shares the new TNGA-C platform with the new Prius and like the Prius, it drives well, according to the reviews I have read.
The limited drivetrain options I would blame on the fact that this was supposed to be sold as a Scion. Scion was cancelled so quickly that there was no time to re-plan the build options on the assembly line. Give it a year and I believe that there will be more options other than the monospec models.
I'd rather sell Jukes than this steaming pile . . .
The Juke is a far superior car than this pile of crap from Toyota, which is based on the Corolla. So you get that lame Corolla driving experience, 140hp, CVT, FWD only, and its a lot heavier than a Corolla. The Juke you had AWD options, manual transmissions, standard turbo engine, great handling, heck they even made a Nismo version. I also thought the Juke was a big pile of ugly when it came out, but its kind of grown on me, it does have personality.
Anyways getting back to the Toyota named after a Jeep model(TJ was the chassis code for the 97-2006 Wrangler), I hope they put something respectable under the hood and offer an AWD option. I'm sure the TJ(and C-HR) will sell, about the only SUV sales flops I can think of in the somewhat recent past have been the Acura ZDX, Accord Crosstour, Toyota Venza(that sold okay but they quit making them), and Pontiac Aztek.
The Juke is a big pile of ugly. That's why it didnt sell at all. Just like picking a woman, she can be the best hearted person (engine) but if she is butterface, no man will want her. The Toyota is opposite, mean hearted beautiful trap that all men will fall for
Actually yes, it does look like something that belongs on the moon. I guess thats our future of automobiles.
I don't see the point in having the TJ and the CH-R in the same category. Unless Toyota is trying to do with what Jeep did with the compass and the patriot.
That looks horrendous..... I don't understand why Toyota is dicking around with these craptastic futuristic looking "offroad" vehicles when they could just bring the 70-series to this country and make bank.
There is a huge market for it. Would give the Wrangler a really good run for their money becasue it's just as/more capable and has a proven track record. Oh and it's actually reliable.....
Even the FJ Cruiser, aside from its loyal following is an ergonomics disaster because of its horrible interior layout and poor/dangerous visibility. Basically a 4Runner with horrible ergonomics at the expense of "looking cool".
Mr. Toyoda should be called (again) before the U.S. Congress to explain how a design like this can be approved. Ugly (subjective) becomes Ugly (objective).
The Juke is a far superior car than this pile of crap from Toyota, which is based on the Corolla. So you get that lame Corolla driving experience, 140hp, CVT, FWD only, and its a lot heavier than a Corolla. The Juke you had AWD options, manual transmissions, standard turbo engine, great handling, heck they even made a Nismo version. I also thought the Juke was a big pile of ugly when it came out, but its kind of grown on me, it does have personality.
Anyways getting back to the Toyota named after a Jeep model(TJ was the chassis code for the 97-2006 Wrangler), I hope they put something respectable under the hood and offer an AWD option. I'm sure the TJ(and C-HR) will sell, about the only SUV sales flops I can think of in the somewhat recent past have been the Acura ZDX, Accord Crosstour, Toyota Venza(that sold okay but they quit making them), and Pontiac Aztek.
The Joke-- whoops, I mean Juke-- is a very ugly vehicle but regarding its mechanical options with AWD (albeit with a CVT. Gag...) and a 6-speed manual in FWD form, LSD and turbo 1.6L.... ^^ This...
Originally Posted by 97-SC300
That looks horrendous..... I don't understand why Toyota is dicking around with these craptastic futuristic looking "offroad" vehicles when they could just bring the 70-series to this country and make bank.
There is a huge market for it. Would give the Wrangler a really good run for their money becasue it's just as/more capable and has a proven track record. Oh and it's actually reliable.....
Even the FJ Cruiser, aside from its loyal following is an ergonomics disaster because of its horrible interior layout and poor/dangerous visibility. Basically a 4Runner with horrible ergonomics at the expense of "looking cool".
^^ But also this. If Mercedes-Benz can still sell a military SUV chassis design (G Series) from basically 1979 (the current version has had structural changes in 1990 but they are structurally very few) then Toyota could sell an updated FJ70 if they wanted to.
That said, I can see the TJ design fitting into the lineup.... if it has a standard AWD system, a small turbo engine and a manual transmission option. And so long as it's actually designed to do some light trail duty. And since Toyota owns the company that makes Torsen differentials, a rear Torsen and at least a viscous center diff would be useful. Otherwise... what would the point of this be?
This obviously isn't a replacement or successor to anything in the FJ series or a competitor to the Wrangler or anything else in that category.
05-31-17, 05:28 PM
Toyota's next small crossover could be the TJ Cruiser
