Lexus UX
03-06-18, 08:55 AM
#136
Lexus Champion
I like the exterior and I really think they did a fantastic job on the interior. I am disappointed that you have to go to the hybrid to get AWD though, and was hoping for a bit more in the engine department. I'm sure it will sell well.
03-06-18, 09:10 AM
#137
Pole Position
The UX isnt competing with the CHR though. Its against Q3s, X1 or X2, GLA. And each of those has a small turbo engine with more power for a slightly higher price. Hopefully, these small engines are for Europe and Asian countries. The U.S. gets a proper engine with some real power. A turbo 1.5-1.6L with 200hp would have sufficed.
03-06-18, 09:13 AM
#138
Lexus Fanatic
iTrader: (20)
being so much shorter than a corolla i wonder how much rear seat legroom it has... if it's pathetic, i think it will hinder sales.
03-06-18, 09:13 AM
#139
Pole Position
Without AWD is another product fail. Why release a half baked product if it isnt ready? They cannot release a crossover without AWD. The CHR could have at least double in sales with a 4WD system.
03-06-18, 09:21 AM
#140
Lexus Champion
Originally Posted by situman
The UX isnt competing with the CHR though. Its against Q3s, X1 or X2, GLA. And each of those has a small turbo engine with more power for a slightly higher price. Hopefully, these small engines are for Europe and Asian countries. The U.S. gets a proper engine with some real power. A turbo 1.5-1.6L with 200hp would have sufficed.
Originally Posted by situman
Without AWD is another product fail. Why release a half baked product if it isnt ready? They cannot release a crossover without AWD. The CHR could have at least double in sales with a 4WD system.
03-06-18, 09:30 AM
#141
Lexus Champion
From Car and Driver:
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/20...-revealed-news
Powertrains include a 168-hp 2.0-liter inline-four, which in the UX200 is paired with a continuously variable automatic transmission (CVT)—not the most exciting combination when stacked up against the 200-hp-plus 2.0-liter turbo four-cylinders found in the competition. At least Lexus claims its new Direct Shift CVT improves power delivery, and this new engine should make for good EPA fuel-economy numbers.
Interestingly, all-wheel drive will be offered only on the UX250h hybrid model. The gas-electric setup uses a new 2.0-liter four-cylinder combined with two electric motors, one powering the front axle and one driving the rear; total output is 176 horsepower. A new technology called Predictive Efficient Drive is said to analyze factors including driving habits and traffic conditions to optimize the level of charge in the nickel-metal-hydride battery pack and that of the regenerative braking system.
Interestingly, all-wheel drive will be offered only on the UX250h hybrid model. The gas-electric setup uses a new 2.0-liter four-cylinder combined with two electric motors, one powering the front axle and one driving the rear; total output is 176 horsepower. A new technology called Predictive Efficient Drive is said to analyze factors including driving habits and traffic conditions to optimize the level of charge in the nickel-metal-hydride battery pack and that of the regenerative braking system.
03-06-18, 09:40 AM
#142
It’s a awesome looking vehicle. But if lexus really wants to sell a lot of these in the Midwestern, Mid Atlantic and North Eastern regions they are going to have to muster up a FWD bias AWD system. Consumers shopping for these small cute ute’s are convinced they have to have AWD in order to be safe and secure in less than ideal slippery conditions. Hopefully they bring it to the U.S. with 200hp and AWD I can easily see this thing out selling the GLA, and Q3 while running neck and neck with the XC40 and X1.
03-06-18, 11:31 AM
#143
Lexus Test Driver
Fantastic interior! Very happy to see a direction like this for Lexus.
03-06-18, 01:47 PM
#145
Pole Position
I know it's not competing per se, just using it as an example where Toyota is more interested in efficiency and believes that their clientele feels the same, although us enthusiasts feel differently.
I believe pushing the hybrid as the AWD is a good idea, given Lexus applies their new hybrid pricing logic and lowers the entry price on the hybrid. More power, AWD, and higher MPG for not much more of the gas variant sounds like a good proposition.
I believe pushing the hybrid as the AWD is a good idea, given Lexus applies their new hybrid pricing logic and lowers the entry price on the hybrid. More power, AWD, and higher MPG for not much more of the gas variant sounds like a good proposition.
03-06-18, 03:08 PM
#149
Yea but what about the people the dont want a hybrid, which will probably be a majority of the buyers. Then again, the parasitic drag and weight of AWD on the little 2L will make it a total turd on the acceleration front. This is also why there needs to be a small turbo option or the DF 2.5L as an option.
03-06-18, 03:31 PM
#150
Considering US is not its main market, it should be fine... for Europe, 180hp hybrid seems like a mighty fine choice and 2.0l will be fine for rest of the world.