mmarshall

Actually, you're right. Infiniti has not exactly been the subject of many dinner-table conversations lately, and seems to carry a stigma to it.....especially in some of the Lexus forums, including this one. While their general reliability, lately, has not been in the same league as Lexus, as early models from the 1990s were, I agree that the brand, when people do talk about it, has taken more than its share of unfair dissings lately.

TangoRed

Not sure if I understand. What metric are you using? And I actually don't think Ghosn is Infiniti's worst enemy at all- everyone I know who has contact with Infiniti has said he's quite angry at their current management. They've got some great products in the pipeline (the QX50 is the most bland though) but they're all running so horribly late due to mismanagement.

TangoRed

While the 300 horsepower version is fitted with a single water pump, the 400 horsepower engine uses two water pumps for more effective management of heat when under operating at higher loads. In addition, for the 400 horsepower variant an optical turbo speed sensor gives a 30 percent power boost to the turbo system by allowing the blades to spin faster.

CRowe14

I've seen a good few on the road and I think they're gorgeous.
Like some others have pointed out, its funny to me that Infinity is kind of the forgotten brand in some conversations, when some of their newer products, at least visually, rival almost anything out there.
Its small, but I really like the idea of the LED-lit emblem on the grille...
They sound great too when accelerating from a stop light!

RNM GS3

Marketing and the Q60 name really hurt the launch of this car.

I honestly havent seen one magazine do a full review on it.

TangoRed

The name change happened before this car even launched. Also you're right, major publications haven't done a full review because Infiniti strangely hasn't released any press cars. I'm assuming they're waiting for warmer weather. There seems to be a major delay in the marketing for their new models...they just recently started advertising the QX30 in earnest.

Duck05

Back in 2008-10 or so the M35 platform got a good run and was a coveted used car value. When my son was looking for a vehicle in late 2010 I suggested a used M35 to be considered. When he went to the dealership to look at lease returns he also considered a G37 coupe but it was a bit small for him (he is 6'2") and he decided on the then brand new M37 with the 330hp plant.

The car (M37) inside and out is stunning but he has had a few warranty repairs dealt with by Infiniti swiftly. When Infiniti went down the rename and the confusing Qnn approach it really hurt any following of the models. Was not a fan of that move.....

I agree the current Q60 is looking good but the 300hp plant when a G37 is at 330 is puzzling. The 400hp plant sounds like a step up but with the turbo adds to reliability concerns (yet to be trended). If the leases are as attractive as indicated, it will "sell" nicely and there will be many on the roads. Whether it becomes a "mod target" for the street crowd is hard to tell.

I have been surprised by the loyal following of the BRZ/FRS owners (even if the Scion owners are swapping out the badges for Toyota).

UDel

That is interesting. I wonder if a larger or extra water pump, tuning/re flash, and optical speed sensor would cost more then the $3000-$6000+ premium of the 400hp model depending on option packages. I am sure that price can be cut significantly by aftermarket tuners while also adding more then 100hp to the 300hp version. It is actually very rare to be able to choose 2 different power options for the same sized turbo engine in a car especially when they vary so much as this new Q60.

bitkahuna

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What's a magazine?

endless video reviews...

https://www.google.com/search?q=2016+q60+review&tbm=vid

Fizzboy7

I wonder if the lack of the sedan's draw is also bringing down the coupe. Often, one has intentions going into a dealership to buy a sedan. But low and behold, a slick, low, sporty coupe is sitting in the showroom. Potential customer asks the salesman, "what is this?" The rest is pure emotions, and the dotted line is signed. But with Infiniti, I don't even think many are going in for the sedan. I rarely see any new ones on the road. Without that showroom traffic, the Coupe isn't being seen by those people who buy on emotion.

TangoRed

In reality the Q50 sedan is bringing in plenty of showroom traffic. Check these 2016 sales stats:

1. Mercedes-Benz C-Class: 77,167
2. BMW 3-Series: 70,458
3. Infiniti Q50: 44,007
4. Lexus IS: 37,289
5. Acura TLX: 37,156
6. Audi A4: 36,987
7. Cadillac ATS: 21,505
8. Volvo S60: 14,218
9. Jaguar XE: 6656

3rd place in a very competitive segment is excellent.

Fizzboy7

Competitve indeed. This again must be a very demographic thing. Here in the northern L.A. burbs, I see zero new Q50's, yet tons of new IS's.

davyjordi

i see the same trend in temecula/north county san diego.

Och

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It's just a coupe version of the aging and unimpressive q50 sedan.

plex

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^^^The Q50 sedan has been doing pretty well actually. I see just as much or more of them than the 3IS around the DC area.