OK, so the Escalade, which has no real competition (especially from the Germans), is unapologetically Cadillac (I assume you mean old-school "Standard of the World" Cadillac) and it sells well. And you claim that the CT6 is also leaning toward old-school Cadillac.

So, does Cadillac finally have a sedan that will sell, despite what the Germans offer, because it is unapologetically old-school Cadillac?

So, does that mean "if you can't beat them, join them" (as in the ATS and CTS) did not work and Cadillac should try "if you can't beat them, try something different"?

 

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed the review. The knee made a lot of progress in the last few weeks,

So you find significant differences in the CT6 and CTS styling? To me, they look almost identical.

Those who liked the DTS's softer ride comfort and seating may or may not like the CT6's sightly stiffer environment. Time will tell....I don't think we can make a prediction right now. From what I can tell, although there were some exceptions, overall, they did not think much of the XTS.

 

Have you test-driven a CT6? I think you'll find that it has a significant German feel to it, unlike traditional Caddies of years ago.

 

Outside of the fact that the Escalade is BOF/truck-based and the Mercedes unibody, you don't consider the Mercedes GL or GLS to be potential competition for the standard-length Escalade?........(not the long-wheelbase, Suburban-based Escalade ESV).

 

When I'm referring to "German" I mean trying to out-BMW BMW like GM has tried with the ATS and CTS (a strategy that hasn't worked). From the reviews I've read thus far, the CT6 is certainly no old floaty Brougham (as no car should be nowadays) but it isn't trying to be a BMW either.

You mentioned the styling similarities between the CT6 and CTS too, which I agree that overall they are very similar. But I still find the CT6 to look a lot sleeker and more refined. For example, while I find the front end design to be ungainly and overdone on the CTS, I find it to be much more refined and sleeker on the CT6. The CT6 could probably pass for a refreshed CTS.

 

Next planned reviews (but not necessarily in this order): Cadillac XT5, Lincoln Continental, Buick LaCrosse, Buick Envision.

As with the next-generation Lexus ES350, I will be paying particular attention to the LaCrosse as a (possible) future purchase and daily driver for me)

 

Lukewarm on the car, but really glad you are feeling up to doing the reviews again!

 

Thanks. Yeah, I can't say I was terribly impressed with it either, but at least it was (mostly) an improvement on the XTS....though the XTS did have a nice interior.

 

just read about this neat feature...

 

Also.....when the center screen is so-programmed, it shows camera angles on a split-screen.....including a bird's eye view from above, so you can see the car's position relative to obstacles anywhere around the car. That's one reason why my test car cost over 70K.

 

and i think your 'point' is factually incorrect on every level. the only 'comfort-oriented' aspect of the DTS compared to today was that it could be had with a giant front bench seat. but the suspension was 'dumb' (not adjustable, one size fits all), and stiff, and of course it was FWD which made it even worse. and german sport sedans are no longer 'stiff', at all. a mainstream 5 series or e class moves in a controlled smooth VERY COMFORTABLE motion.

right, but that's irrelevant, since the 'V' cadillacs are not what you were reviewing, have nothing to do with the CT6 in the form you reviewed, and certainly even less to do with DTS or XTS fwd barges.

i was referring to the interior heat, not exterior.

JCE?

i parked both vehicles in direct, under trees sometimes, etc., and MY point is that the black interior JCG is no hotter than the cream interior Explorer was.

again i'm not talking about the exterior, and i don't believe exterior heat or color or interior color have any bearing on inside temperature. here's someone's test that confirms this:
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71317

most of ALL other vehicles, or most other large luxury sedans? i've never seen a large luxury sedan that had a spare tire that anything but easy to remove. if the CT6's spare is easier to remove than a 1994 Nissan Sentra, i don't care, and it's irrelevant.

right but your review said the CT6 is aimed at the s-class, which it isn't.

because luxury isn't always about cost, it's about providing conveniences not found on lesser vehicles. regardless, the push button start requires a wireless proximity key fob and software to work offsetting any of those key-related costs you mention.

overall, i realize reviews are subjective, but i'm suggesting you state findings comparing to similar vehicles, not all vehicles, and not relative to what you own, or have owned, or want to or don't want to buy etc. but hey. it's easy to be a critic, and we all appreciate you doing the reviews!

 

OK....fine, so we disagree on that. Wouldn't be the first time.



Of course they are not in the same class as a CT6. I just included those to show how far Cadillac has come from its traditional days.



Sorry...a typo. I obviously meant a JGC (Jeep Grand Cherokee)



You much have some pretty good tint on the windows, then. With the fierce Florida summer sun, I wouldn't be surprised if that state allowed somewhat darker tint than a lot of other places.


Maybe irrelevant to you, but I don't just write reviews for one person.



It's aimed at the S-class in terms of being a luxury-class sedan flagship, but you're correct in that even Cadillac admits it is not quite in the same league as the S550 in actual road manners. That's because the TRUE S-class fighter from Cadillac, with the planned V12, got cancelled....probably to fund the Caddy SUV program. SUVs, of course, have pretty much taken over the American market.


Always appreciate constructive suggestions. You may not realize it, but I have already incorporated a couple of your past suggestions into the way I do reviews today.

 

i had no tint added to either the explorer or the jeep. i guess you just can't concede that INTERIOR temp is not affected by INTERIOR color - no problem. i definitely had your point of view until i started spending time in someone else's car with black interior, and now my own.

 

Well, OK.....no sense going on and on about it. Obviously, you know your own vehicle.....and you've been evaluating cars for a long time, just like me (and doing a good job) . So, my opinion is not necessarily any more valid than yours. I can agree that in many cases, particularly if the insulation is good (as it is in the JGC) interior color and temperature are not necessarily related, even in sunlight. But a black or dark exterior will definitely heat up in the sun more than white or light one. I'm sure you've seen the shots of eggs frying on dark surfaces outside. And, over time, the ultraviolet radiation of sunlight will still cause deterioration of the interior surfaces regardless of temperature....that's why dash-covers are sold.

 

I like the overall exterior design of recent Cadis, but their interior just can't impress me at all, otherwise the CTS-V would seriously on my shopping list.

Enjoyed the review as usual, thanks Mike!