I would bet that Daddy leased it for him, we see it all the time...

 

It was his fathers car that he was driving that night, not his own personal car.

 

Either way the kid needs to keep his mouth shut unless directed by lawyers. I disagree with hard time (costs me money) and think we need to direct some of these people to semi permanent supervised community service roles instead.

 

I guarantee he's operating under the counsel of very high priced lawyers.

Remember DC is the lawyer capital of the country lol. Odds are his parents are lawyers.

 

well that's because i secretly like a bit of negative attention especially on anonymous internet forums where my guilty facial expression can't be seen lol...

well i was going to say that i totally agree with you that this kid is a total idiot, and deserves every bad thing that'll happen as a result of this. from how you described the road, it sounds like he came flying over the hill doing 115 or whatever it was without a clear line of site of the bottom of the hill. you should NEVER be going that fast when you don't have a clear line of sight of everything in front of you. that's just asking for something terrible to happen.

i don't think it's fair however to just say HE WAS GOING 115 IN A 45 because that doesn't do the situation justice. the better phrasing would be that he was going far too fast for the prevailing conditions. i've gone 165 in a 65 but that was totally fine because it was in an E63 (so it didn't take very long to get there or to brake back down to the limit), there was a clear line of sight, the road was straight and smooth, weather was good, and not a single other car was passed during the acceleration. were something to happen, only we would've been affected. sometimes just going 25 mph over the limit can be more dangerous than going 100 mph over the limit. it all depends on the scenario.

 

Explain what you mean by bad things?

If you mean live with it for the rest of his life, sure. A hard sentence isn't going to do jack squat for this young man other than turn him into a criminal for life if he is ever released (if convicted)

A more fitting punishment would be a long term commitment to their community with mandatory appearances as a speaker in defensive driving classes/road rage classes for the next decade (Or Longer)

 

Jesus. We live in a society of law, and we share public roadways that are there for the use of everyone. Driving 100MPH over the speed limit on a public roadway makes you a dangerous criminal...and it is not "totally fine".

Do you have to be the one who kills one or more people for this to get through to you?

People are dead and lives are ruined because of this...do you want this to happen to you? If not....drive within a reasonable range of the f'ing speed limit

 

If everything is illegal then everyone is a criminal.

Perhaps the speed limit is set arbitrarily or for an antiquated standard.

 

A safe speed for the roadway is not 165 MPH!

Speed limits are set artificially low...and I'm all for the idea that traveling with the flow of traffic is a lot safer that following an arbitrary speed limit, but you will not convince me the flow of traffic where he was driving was 165 MPH...and a safe speed to drive down River Rd is nowhere near 115 MPH.

Driving over the speed limit is not what makes him a dangerous criminal, extremely excessive speed is the culprit.

If you want to drive over 100 MPH...go to a racetrack. Stay off the road where my family and I have to also drive. I have never been on a roadway in the US where I felt speeds over 100MPH were reasonable. Our roads aren't designed for those speeds.

 

ok maybe "totally fine" wasn't a good choice of words but on a wide open interstate with NO POSSIBLE WAY for another car to merge in front of you i still don't believe that me and him were in the same situation. but trust me i would never do what he did, that's just incredibly reckless. and being a criminal doesn't make you a bad person. but i have generally darwinian views on life and feel that we don't need so many laws to keep society in check. a murderer doesn't care that it's illegal, neither does a robber. people will do what they want to do.

 

but..... there was no traffic... like none at all. and i agree going with the flow is the safest thing to do.

 

Some day, you hopefully you will learn that it is not fine--at all, under any scenario. And hopefully, we won't all be writing in a thread, like this one, about you, and the consequences of your stupidity. You want to do 165, go to the track.

Keep up your rationalizations, if you want. I'm sure this kid had some great rationalizations right before he wiped out 3/4ths of that family. I'm pretty confident he wasn't thinking "I could kill someone doing this, but ahh, what the heck, it's fun!"

What if there was a pedestrian on the side of the road? Wearing dark clothes? Or even crossing the road, not having any sense that a car is coming at him at 165 mph, seeing headlights so far off, and figuring he has plenty of time to cross?

So if a murderer has no regard for the law, then it's ok for everyone else to have no regard for the law, or other's safety? Not understating your rationalization here.... Other than that you will just do what you want, which we already knew.

 

The m235i that he was driving is a very loud car with very bright lights. Very hard not to notice, especially when its flying at such rate of speed. The volt driver likely didn't pay attention or has very poor judgement when it comes to sense of speed.

The way I see it - the BMW driver was being reckless and the Volt driver was being a slowpoke. Unfortunately they met and it cost them their lives, and lives of others.

 

I'm not saying you were in the same situation, but that doesn't mean the situation you were in was not also reckless. You have no idea what can happen to you, what can pop out on the roadway unless you're in a totally controlled situation....like a race track.

We clearly come from very different upbringings

 

if it was on the autobahn you wouldn't be saying anything. and it was basically on the autobahn.