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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 12:11 PM
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just goes to show most American's don't give a hoot when it comes to the reliability factor. just look at the sales for fiat. (ram/jeep)
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by airgas1998
just goes to show most American's don't give a hoot when it comes to the reliability factor. just look at the sales for fiat. (ram/jeep)
I think it is mainly due to the new trend of keeping cars only for 3 to 4 years. Manufacturer's warranty covers all reliability issues during that period anyway. OTOH Americans have always been risk takers which is why this is the land of opportunity
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by airgas1998
just goes to show most American's don't give a hoot when it comes to the reliability factor. just look at the sales for fiat. (ram/jeep)
Could also be great incentives.
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by situman
Could also be great incentives.
indeed... FCA is barely staying afloat.
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Old Apr 16, 2016 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
indeed... FCA is barely staying afloat.
i decided to look into your comment, not knowing anything about fca's performance.

turns out they made a net profit by the end of 2015 of 377 million Euros. this sounds tiny, but then you notice that they cut their debt about 6 BILLION euros. that's impressive.

anyway, they're hardly just 'barely staying afloat' - they're definitely not a money printing machine like toyota, but they seem to be on a decent path.

dec 2015 fin report:
http://globaldocuments.morningstar.c...msdoc/original
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Old Apr 18, 2016 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i decided to look into your comment, not knowing anything about fca's performance.

turns out they made a net profit by the end of 2015 of 377 million Euros. this sounds tiny, but then you notice that they cut their debt about 6 BILLION euros. that's impressive.

anyway, they're hardly just 'barely staying afloat' - they're definitely not a money printing machine like toyota, but they seem to be on a decent path.

dec 2015 fin report:
http://globaldocuments.morningstar.c...msdoc/original
I wasn't going to say anything but I'm glad you did. Marchionne's comments make the unacquainted think FCA will be dead by the end of 2016, but in reality he is an overly transparent numbers guy and is just doing the needful to manage debt. FCA will be fine.
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Old May 7, 2016 | 12:26 PM
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I wouldn't buy the current gen GS simply because of the grill. It's getting worse.
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Old May 9, 2016 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
^^ could even be that although gas prices are now relatively low, people see the're rising again. also, the gl is now ancient.

Could be people were holding out for the GLS which just came out...
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Old May 10, 2016 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by G Star
Could be people were holding out for the GLS which just came out...
They weren't holding out as much as the supply had wound down. Dealers are pissed at MBUSA because they aren't allocating enough SUV's to dealers. Some dealers have actually ran out of GL's to sell in the past...so let's hope they get production at the Alabama plant rectified soon.
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