Looks like chevy has an answer for the m4
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I'd probably go for the Camaro too. Best bang for the buck.
However, this whole comparison is unrealistic in the real world. Most people who are shopping BMW's, have little interest in Camaros and the GM dealership. They are cross-shopping other German makes and likely Japanese competition. The American brutes such as the Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger take care of the "other side." I do not see or hear about much cross-over, and I'm in the thick of the suburbs where all these cars run rampant.
However, this whole comparison is unrealistic in the real world. Most people who are shopping BMW's, have little interest in Camaros and the GM dealership. They are cross-shopping other German makes and likely Japanese competition. The American brutes such as the Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger take care of the "other side." I do not see or hear about much cross-over, and I'm in the thick of the suburbs where all these cars run rampant.
I'd probably go for the Camaro too. Best bang for the buck.
However, this whole comparison is unrealistic in the real world. Most people who are shopping BMW's, have little interest in Camaros and the GM dealership. They are cross-shopping other German makes and likely Japanese competition. The American brutes such as the Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger take care of the "other side." I do not see or hear about much cross-over, and I'm in the thick of the suburbs where all these cars run rampant.
However, this whole comparison is unrealistic in the real world. Most people who are shopping BMW's, have little interest in Camaros and the GM dealership. They are cross-shopping other German makes and likely Japanese competition. The American brutes such as the Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger take care of the "other side." I do not see or hear about much cross-over, and I'm in the thick of the suburbs where all these cars run rampant.
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The big deal of this new Camaro is that it is on the Cadillac ATS platform which consistently has beaten the 3 series for handling. This platform is very light and is reflected in the new Camaro which is about 300 lb lighter than before. With the big power available, the Camaro is a better track car than the M4.
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yeah, agree the m4 is more classy than a camaro or mustang which are targeted more at the nascar crowd as opposed to the night club crowd. 
in terms of value and performance though, the camaro and mustang are now unbeatable after both brands decided to make them have serious world class platforms and not just hugely compromised 'cheap' platforms.
in terms of value and performance though, the camaro and mustang are now unbeatable after both brands decided to make them have serious world class platforms and not just hugely compromised 'cheap' platforms.
yeah, agree the m4 is more classy than a camaro or mustang which are targeted more at the nascar crowd as opposed to the night club crowd.
in terms of value and performance though, the camaro and mustang are now unbeatable after both brands decided to make them have serious world class platforms and not just hugely compromised 'cheap' platforms.
in terms of value and performance though, the camaro and mustang are now unbeatable after both brands decided to make them have serious world class platforms and not just hugely compromised 'cheap' platforms.
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yeah, agree the m4 is more classy than a camaro or mustang which are targeted more at the nascar crowd as opposed to the night club crowd.
in terms of value and performance though, the camaro and mustang are now unbeatable after both brands decided to make them have serious world class platforms and not just hugely compromised 'cheap' platforms.
in terms of value and performance though, the camaro and mustang are now unbeatable after both brands decided to make them have serious world class platforms and not just hugely compromised 'cheap' platforms.
I think 3/4series is more like "senior people styling", M4 is trying to hard to be young and hardcore is just like old gramma tries doing twerking. DOES NOT WORK. Camaro styling belongs to younger crown where cars are actually get driven, and raced. While styling is subjective, I take RC-F over M4 anyday, and Camaro over M4 anyday.
yeah, agree the m4 is more classy than a camaro or mustang which are targeted more at the nascar crowd as opposed to the night club crowd.
in terms of value and performance though, the camaro and mustang are now unbeatable after both brands decided to make them have serious world class platforms and not just hugely compromised 'cheap' platforms.
in terms of value and performance though, the camaro and mustang are now unbeatable after both brands decided to make them have serious world class platforms and not just hugely compromised 'cheap' platforms.
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There have been rumors of a mid engined Corvette since the late70's/early 80's along with a Wankel powered one at one time. It never happens. It would likely be too expensive plus most Corvette owners are fine with it and probably prefer it to still be front engine. I think if they do a mid engine Chevy sports car it would replace the ZR1 at well over 100K and would be separate from the base Corvette which will likely remain front engine.