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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 12:28 PM
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It just looks so dated. The interior is particularly nasty.
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by S2000toIS350
I thought the manual parking brake lever was for owners who like to do drifting
Even with stability control, drifting high-center-of-gravity SUVs weighing between two and half to three tons is not something that one should undertake with any common sense.
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
why oh why for a 2016 does it still have a giant manual park brake handle?
My guess is reliability. Even though the Land Cruiser has a lot of electronic convenienence items on it, it is also designed as a true off-roader, and you don't want a (potentially) unreliable electronic parking brake getting you into trouble off-road.

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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
My guess is reliability. Even though the Land Cruiser has a lot of electronic convenienence items on it, it is also designed as true off-roaders, and you don't want a (potentially) unreliable electronic parking brake getting you into trouble off-road.
My guess would be that reliability is the reason, but then again, there is a lot of electronics on board that would cancel it out.

For a hard core off roader, Toyota would tell you a manual hand brake can be fine tuned for adjustment for easing of a brake while gently working the gas throttle. You cant do that with a pedal or electronic system.

But then again, cost is probably the biggest reason. The new 2016 Tacoma has gone to a pull instead of the pedal.
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
My guess would be that reliability is the reason, but then again, there is a lot of electronics on board that would cancel it out.

For a hard core off roader, Toyota would tell you a manual hand brake can be fine tuned for adjustment for easing of a brake while gently working the gas throttle. You cant do that with a pedal or electronic system.

But then again, cost is probably the biggest reason. The new 2016 Tacoma has gone to a pull instead of the pedal.
It's possible that cost is a reason, but IMO, that would be hard to justify on a vehicle starting at over 80K.
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
It's possible that cost is a reason, but IMO, that would be hard to justify on a vehicle starting at over 80K.
You would be surprised how much cost control (not cost cutting in all places) the Land Cruise and LX have baked into their designs. More so than almost all other Toyota or Lexus products IMO. Although the Tundra and LS for 2016 are using a lot of the tech from the 07 models.
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Bottom left near passengers foot, what is that red bar/thingy?
likely the emergency flare found in a lot of cars on that side of the world.
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
You would be surprised how much cost control (not cost cutting in all places) the Land Cruise and LX have baked into their designs. More so than almost all other Toyota or Lexus products IMO. Although the Tundra and LS for 2016 are using a lot of the tech from the 07 models.
can you please explain to me how LX cuts costs more other Lexus vehicles? You are confusing things again.
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Originally Posted by baddis es
likely the emergency flare found in a lot of cars on that side of the world.
Ah thank you!
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Old Aug 25, 2015 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
can you please explain to me how LX cuts costs more other Lexus vehicles? You are confusing things again.
Really? You must be able to see some of it. How about the lack of a properly designed third row seat, where is the fold flat seating? How about the clamshell rear hatch that is unlike any of its peers? Dare I say rear IRS like the Sequoia? I can completely understand and respect that the 200 series is used it harsh conditions. But Toyota could offer some of these features for the American market at least.
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Old Aug 26, 2015 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Dare I say rear IRS like the Sequoia?
Dare say IFS/IRS on a G Wagon too? It uses solid front/rear and that must be cost cutting as well?
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Old Aug 26, 2015 | 03:08 PM
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^ I actually like the rear tailgate on the Land Cruiser. I think Range Rover still has the same design, it gives you a great place to sit when you're "tailgating" and hanging out.
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Old Aug 26, 2015 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Aron9000
^ I actually like the rear tailgate on the Land Cruiser. I think Range Rover still has the same design, it gives you a great place to sit when you're "tailgating" and hanging out.
Yup Range Rover (top one, not the Sport), X5, and LR4 utilize similar hatch back/tail gate split. I think it's really nice, in today's crowded garages you can still open the hatch part, where other cars with full hatch, it might not have enough clearance behind the vehicle and the garage door to open it up.

And although it can sometimes be a bit of an added reach to get something out when the tailgate is down, at least you're not rubbing against the dirty rear bumper of the car when you do so.

Range Rover offers this:

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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 07:34 PM
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One of the Dakar vehicles with the new front

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