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Old Apr 30, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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These billions in profits people like to complain about don't just go to lining the pockets of fat cats. No doubt the big boys make their money, but so doesn't any executive.

These profits are mostly used in reinvesting into the company. Would we rather them lay off thousands of workers if we demanded they make minimal profits? Cause that's what would happen. Then, gas would become even much more expensive. These profits are used for exploration of new oil and the infrastructure in drilling for it and refining it. Just as a car company needs big profits to develop new product (typically $500 million to develop a car).

I forget which company, but one of them had spent billions exploring oil in Alaska. With government regulations put in place, all that money is wasted because they're not allowed to drill for it now.
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If the Canadian dollar was still on par with the Swiss Franc, I would be paying like US$6.44 per gallon for regular. Now that be crazy
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Originally Posted by -J-P-L-
These billions in profits people like to complain about don't just go to lining the pockets of fat cats. No doubt the big boys make their money, but so doesn't any executive.

These profits are mostly used in reinvesting into the company. Would we rather them lay off thousands of workers if we demanded they make minimal profits? Cause that's what would happen. Then, gas would become even much more expensive. These profits are used for exploration of new oil and the infrastructure in drilling for it and refining it. Just as a car company needs big profits to develop new product (typically $500 million to develop a car).

I forget which company, but one of them had spent billions exploring oil in Alaska. With government regulations put in place, all that money is wasted because they're not allowed to drill for it now.
uhm, no... it wouldnt be profit if that money is used to exploration... stop the crap please.

Oil companies consistently have biggest profits in the world, thats a fact.
Old Apr 30, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by -J-P-L-
These billions in profits people like to complain about don't just go to lining the pockets of fat cats. No doubt the big boys make their money, but so doesn't any executive.

These profits are mostly used in reinvesting into the company. Would we rather them lay off thousands of workers if we demanded they make minimal profits? Cause that's what would happen. Then, gas would become even much more expensive. These profits are used for exploration of new oil and the infrastructure in drilling for it and refining it. Just as a car company needs big profits to develop new product (typically $500 million to develop a car).

I forget which company, but one of them had spent billions exploring oil in Alaska. With government regulations put in place, all that money is wasted because they're not allowed to drill for it now.
You do realize that when Toyota invests 8 billion in R&D, in 2009 for instance, then it is counted as their cost and taken out of profit, right?

Same goes for Oil companies... they invest a lot of money into researching new fields and what not, but thats already in their financials and they still make billions afterwards.
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Diesel FTW....again!!!

Just filled up and premium diesel was $1.169/liter ($4.68/gallon) compared to premium gas which is currently $1.389/liter ($5.56/gallon).
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uhm, no... it wouldnt be profit if that money is used to exploration... stop the crap please.

Oil companies consistently have biggest profits in the world, thats a fact.
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You do realize that when Toyota invests 8 billion in R&D, in 2009 for instance, then it is counted as their cost and taken out of profit, right?

Same goes for Oil companies... they invest a lot of money into researching new fields and what not, but thats already in their financials and they still make billions afterwards.
Fair enough observation. Maybe it's semantics, but I guess you could say there's two ways to look at "profits" in a sense. The way that I meant was that companies clearly base new R&D on past earnings. When a company builds up a war chest of cash from past profits, do they not use that toward reinvestment in new product? 100% of profit doesn't just get paid out to shareholders, executives, ect...The company keeps a lot of it as capital for investment. Am I wrong?
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Diesel FTW....again!!!

Just filled up and premium diesel was $1.169/liter ($4.68/gallon) compared to premium gas which is currently $1.389/liter ($5.56/gallon).
Diesel costs more than premium unleaded in my area. Although when the higher mileage is considered, diesel does win.
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Filled up regular at $3.93 today. Haven't been driving the IS as much anymore, premium is at $4.20 something I believe
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Just picked up a scooter for city errands in Long Beach. I can't commute with it, but it's good for short city trips here and there (getting a cup of coffee, going to the grocery store for light shopping, etc.), without having to take the SUV.

110 mpg average.

Sure, it maxes out at 35 mph , but that's all I need in the city...
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Just filled up a full tank today in L.A. $68. Can't keep doing what I normally do. =(
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Gas prices reached $4.43, 2 cent increase in 2 days.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
uhm, no... it wouldnt be profit if that money is used to exploration... stop the crap please.

Oil companies consistently have biggest profits in the world, thats a fact.
Wouldn't one expect the largest companies in the world to have the largest profits?
Old Apr 30, 2011 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Infra
Wouldn't one expect the largest companies in the world to have the largest profits?
Agreed - especially since it's the world, not just the U.S., and they are seeing increases in demand outside of here many times over as China and India increase their vehicle populations.

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Originally Posted by -J-P-L-
These billions in profits people like to complain about don't just go to lining the pockets of fat cats. No doubt the big boys make their money, but so doesn't any executive.

These profits are mostly used in reinvesting into the company. Would we rather them lay off thousands of workers if we demanded they make minimal profits? Cause that's what would happen. Then, gas would become even much more expensive. These profits are used for exploration of new oil and the infrastructure in drilling for it and refining it. Just as a car company needs big profits to develop new product (typically $500 million to develop a car).

I forget which company, but one of them had spent billions exploring oil in Alaska. With government regulations put in place, all that money is wasted because they're not allowed to drill for it now.




Are you suggesting the big FAT cats aren't making millions per year??

Maybe they wouldn't have spent & wasted so much in Alaska if they didn't make the billions per 1/4 either.
Now really, Are u saying the big boys aren't making millions per year??
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Originally Posted by Infra
Wouldn't one expect the largest companies in the world to have the largest profits?
Exactly. When revenues are in the 100's of billions, profits are going to be big numbers whether you like it or not.

Here's the top 10 companies by revenue in the world as of 2010. Revenue showed in billions.


1- Walmart.................Retailing.........$418.952
2- ExxonMobil.............Oil and gas......$370.125
3- Royal Dutch Shell....Oil and gas......$368.056
4- BP..........................Oil and gas......$297.107
5- Sinopec..................Oil and gas......$289.774
6- PetroChina.............Oil and gas......$221.955
7- Total S.A................Oil and gas......$212.815
8- Chevron.................Oil and gas......$204.928
9- Toyota...................Automotive.....$203.687
10- Japan Post...........Conglomerate..$200.995


If ExxonMobil's profits were only 1% of revenue, it would still make $3.7 Billion! That's simply to demonstrate the scale we're talking about here. No matter how small of a percentage they profit, it will always be too much in the minds of the left half of this country.



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