2016 Ford Mustang
understand totally. loaners are great. but you're paying for it one way or another and since a rental co. like enterprise will bring the vehicle right to the dealership, there's no waiting or issue.
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I'm with you. Spend $40-70k on a car and they want to charge you to RENT a vehicle? Wow. Slimy IMO. Next if they run out of Fords they'll say "Sorry sir we do have a Camaro".....
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Comparing the 2016 Ford Shelby GT350 Voodoo V8 to the best naturally aspirated performance engines of the past decade with specs and dynographs
http://www.boostaddict.com/content.p...and-dynographs
http://www.boostaddict.com/content.p...and-dynographs
Now some of you may be saying, hold on, where are the big naturally aspirated V12's from Ferrari and Lamborghini? They make more power! You are right, they do. They also come packaged in $300k plus cars. That highlights a key point here. Ford is offering by far the most naturally aspirated horsepower per dollar. It isn't even close.
Also, we wanted to compare the motor to actually attainable cars and vehicles closer in displacement and cylinder count. Obviously it is not uniform and obviously cars like the SLS Black Series are many times the cost of a GT350 but that just serves to make the GT350 look even better.
The Voodoo V8 is the third most powerful motor on the list. It makes more power and torque at the same compression ration with the same revs as the vaunted BMW S85 V10. It also does it for less money at a time when emission rules are tighter.
BMW has switched to turbo motors because they said they can no longer make high performance naturally aspirated high revving engines that meet emissions standards and still make money. Yet Ford is producing a naturally aspirated motor today that makes more power and torque than BMW's best for less money than BMW. Hey, you figure out if it is because BMW can't do it or the accountants who run the show prefer that they didn't.
What we also learn here is that Porsche by far pushes their engines harder than anyone else. They are the top dogs when it comes to extracting horsepower per liter followed by Ferrari. That said, the 991 GT3 is the champion of hp per liter and Ferrari is almost a full 20 horsepower per liter off from them. That is a large gap and Porsche deserves tremendous respect for what they do. Yes, the list is missing the 458 Speciale which certainly would be great to see and if anyone has a Dynojet run for one that Ferrari didn't pull from the web let us know.
Ford is offering the best balance of revs, horsepower, and torque for the money in this comparison. The Voodoo V8 is truly elite only giving up two wheel horsepower to the Lamborghini V10 which comes in a car over $200k while also offering more torque. Only the SLS Black Series M159 tops it significantly but it is working with another liter of displacement and costs $300k+.
The Voodoo V8 truly is world class. Ford can not get enough credit for what they have built.
Also, we wanted to compare the motor to actually attainable cars and vehicles closer in displacement and cylinder count. Obviously it is not uniform and obviously cars like the SLS Black Series are many times the cost of a GT350 but that just serves to make the GT350 look even better.
The Voodoo V8 is the third most powerful motor on the list. It makes more power and torque at the same compression ration with the same revs as the vaunted BMW S85 V10. It also does it for less money at a time when emission rules are tighter.
BMW has switched to turbo motors because they said they can no longer make high performance naturally aspirated high revving engines that meet emissions standards and still make money. Yet Ford is producing a naturally aspirated motor today that makes more power and torque than BMW's best for less money than BMW. Hey, you figure out if it is because BMW can't do it or the accountants who run the show prefer that they didn't.
What we also learn here is that Porsche by far pushes their engines harder than anyone else. They are the top dogs when it comes to extracting horsepower per liter followed by Ferrari. That said, the 991 GT3 is the champion of hp per liter and Ferrari is almost a full 20 horsepower per liter off from them. That is a large gap and Porsche deserves tremendous respect for what they do. Yes, the list is missing the 458 Speciale which certainly would be great to see and if anyone has a Dynojet run for one that Ferrari didn't pull from the web let us know.
Ford is offering the best balance of revs, horsepower, and torque for the money in this comparison. The Voodoo V8 is truly elite only giving up two wheel horsepower to the Lamborghini V10 which comes in a car over $200k while also offering more torque. Only the SLS Black Series M159 tops it significantly but it is working with another liter of displacement and costs $300k+.
The Voodoo V8 truly is world class. Ford can not get enough credit for what they have built.
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I hope this engine has a long life and may find its way into other versions of the Mustang (who are we kidding we know there will be 50 versions as always) and possibly even into other platforms. Most of all I would love to see it as a crate engine with control pack.
