Compact Luxury SUVs - Will the NX come out on top?
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Compact Luxury SUVs - Will the NX come out on top?
The NX is heading into a highly competitive and saturated market with many new upcoming contenders such as the GLA, Q3, and MKC. Will it come out on top in its class, like its big brother, the RX?
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The SRX was mirrored after the RX, look how close that is. Looking at the ATS and CTS and how good they are, its safe to say the 3rd gen SRX is going to expand on its success even more. That said, the 2016 RX needs to come out swinging. Hope they up the luxury quotient, the ML and Q5 are both available with giant panoramic roofs and second row climate controls two things not to be found on the RX. The new Highlander cabin with its nice materials makes a strong case that the RX needs to do more.
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The SRX was mirrored after the RX, look how close that is. Looking at the ATS and CTS and how good they are, its safe to say the 3rd gen SRX is going to expand on its success even more. That said, the 2016 RX needs to come out swinging. Hope they up the luxury quotient, the ML and Q5 are both available with giant panoramic roofs and second row climate controls two things not to be found on the RX. The new Highlander cabin with its nice materials makes a strong case that the RX needs to do more.
On the other hand, NX is not being built specifically for US market, so while NX+RX sales will certainly rise, i doubt it will close anything close to matching RX numbers.
Maybe we (car enthusiasts in forums) will like NX better than RX though. That does not make it great sales success though.
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Yikes at comparo... RX sold 104k in 2013,9% rise from 2012 (SRX sold 50% less)... Numbers for Feb are lower due factory being down due to snow. All without giant panoramic roof :-).
On the other hand, NX is not being built specifically for US market, so while NX+RX sales will certainly rise, i doubt it will close anything close to matching RX numbers.
Maybe we (car enthusiasts in forums) will like NX better than RX though. That does not make it great sales success though.
On the other hand, NX is not being built specifically for US market, so while NX+RX sales will certainly rise, i doubt it will close anything close to matching RX numbers.
Maybe we (car enthusiasts in forums) will like NX better than RX though. That does not make it great sales success though.
I'm glad the NX is coming. The RX has been straddling for too long now. Without having to do double duty anymore it can evolve and grow. The NX is essentially the size of the original RX filling the void the RX left. Similar to how the ATS allowed the CTS to move up
The RX is a great vehicle and is very competent and people know this hence it's sales success. But that does not excuse the lack of available options and those available on competitors. I was driving a '12 ML350 the other day, and was most impressed with the steering feel, cabin noise (lack of), how well it absorbed bumps, good power albeit a little gruff sounding. Unlike the RX though, its not as intuitive or logical with some controls. The pano roof was nice
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Agreed. The RX is in a sweet spot with the price to size equation...with the NX sitting more squarely with its competitors I seriously doubt it would be able to pull of that much of a lead from the RDX on the bottom end and the X3/GLK/Q5 on the top end.
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The RX has been straddling for too long now. The RX is a great vehicle and is very competent and people know this hence it's sales success. But that does not excuse the lack of available options and those available on competitors. I was driving a '12 ML350 the other day, and was most impressed with the steering feel, cabin noise (lack of), how well it absorbed bumps, good power albeit a little gruff sounding. Unlike the RX though, its not as intuitive or logical with some controls. The pano roof was nice
Yes I agree price is one of the positive attribute's of the RX. Given this, increasing the price too much removes the value equation. Lexus needs to tread carefully. The LX and Land Cruiser are examples of how a huge price increase from one generation to the next can kill volume.
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It's going to be interesting to see what impact the NX has on the compact SUV class and RX sales. I've always felt like the RX (since the 2nd gen) was lacking luxury features compared to the competition. I chalked this up as the RX being priced lower than the ML, X5, Cayenne, etc. and essentially being a Camry station wagon.
Yes I agree price is one of the positive attribute's of the RX. Given this, increasing the price too much removes the value equation. Lexus needs to tread carefully. The LX and Land Cruiser are examples of how a huge price increase from one generation to the next can kill volume.
Yes I agree price is one of the positive attribute's of the RX. Given this, increasing the price too much removes the value equation. Lexus needs to tread carefully. The LX and Land Cruiser are examples of how a huge price increase from one generation to the next can kill volume.
The LX doesn't sell in large numbers Stateside, but it does sell in droves still in the UAE and Middle East still.
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Here's my take. It somewhat mirrors most of your comments above.
If the NX has that same magical ratio on price/size/features as the RX has over its competitors AND the RX grows in size for MY 2016 to distinguish itself from the NX in price and size, the NX will grow towards the top soon enough (within 2 years is my guesstimate) but possibly cannibalizing some RX sales in the process. This magical ratio will have to be such that it will have the roominess of an X3/Q5/GLK, with the price point of an X1/Q3/GLA similarly equipped. By attacking the "bottom" and "top" tiers of its competitors like the RX has done, it stands a very good chance at climbing to numero uno.
Getting specific here so if the NX can carve out about 30 cu ft of cargo, 42/35 inches of f/r legroom, and at least 95 cu ft of interior room, with a price range of 35-47K USD offering competitive features, show me the dotted line. Four more weeks folks for the reveal!
If the NX has that same magical ratio on price/size/features as the RX has over its competitors AND the RX grows in size for MY 2016 to distinguish itself from the NX in price and size, the NX will grow towards the top soon enough (within 2 years is my guesstimate) but possibly cannibalizing some RX sales in the process. This magical ratio will have to be such that it will have the roominess of an X3/Q5/GLK, with the price point of an X1/Q3/GLA similarly equipped. By attacking the "bottom" and "top" tiers of its competitors like the RX has done, it stands a very good chance at climbing to numero uno.
Getting specific here so if the NX can carve out about 30 cu ft of cargo, 42/35 inches of f/r legroom, and at least 95 cu ft of interior room, with a price range of 35-47K USD offering competitive features, show me the dotted line. Four more weeks folks for the reveal!
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Here's my take. It somewhat mirrors most of your comments above.
If the NX has that same magical ratio on price/size/features as the RX has over its competitors AND the RX grows in size for MY 2016 to distinguish itself from the NX in price and size, the NX will grow towards the top soon enough (within 2 years is my guesstimate) but possibly cannibalizing some RX sales in the process. This magical ratio will have to be such that it will have the roominess of an X3/Q5/GLK, with the price point of an X1/Q3/GLA similarly equipped. By attacking the "bottom" and "top" tiers of its competitors like the RX has done, it stands a very good chance at climbing to numero uno.
Getting specific here so if the NX can carve out about 30 cu ft of cargo, 42/35 inches of f/r legroom, and at least 95 cu ft of interior room, with a price range of 35-47K USD offering competitive features, show me the dotted line. Four more weeks folks for the reveal!
If the NX has that same magical ratio on price/size/features as the RX has over its competitors AND the RX grows in size for MY 2016 to distinguish itself from the NX in price and size, the NX will grow towards the top soon enough (within 2 years is my guesstimate) but possibly cannibalizing some RX sales in the process. This magical ratio will have to be such that it will have the roominess of an X3/Q5/GLK, with the price point of an X1/Q3/GLA similarly equipped. By attacking the "bottom" and "top" tiers of its competitors like the RX has done, it stands a very good chance at climbing to numero uno.
Getting specific here so if the NX can carve out about 30 cu ft of cargo, 42/35 inches of f/r legroom, and at least 95 cu ft of interior room, with a price range of 35-47K USD offering competitive features, show me the dotted line. Four more weeks folks for the reveal!
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The RX is in kind of the goldilocks in the mid size SUV segment, not as large as something like the ML or X5 but now as small as the GLK or X3.
Will the NX be in the middle of the GLK/X3 and GLA/X1?
Will the NX be in the middle of the GLK/X3 and GLA/X1?
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Four more weeks folks for the reveal!
Yes, I think this thread is premature when we don't have any specs, options, costs or a clear photo yet. I think we've done all the speculation possible.
I am sad to hear my RX350 is just a Camry wagon
Yes, I think this thread is premature when we don't have any specs, options, costs or a clear photo yet. I think we've done all the speculation possible.
I am sad to hear my RX350 is just a Camry wagon
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NX seems to be more like IS and GS than ES/RX... So it will be X3 competitor and similar to X3 prices. It will not start at 30k.
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