Luxury SUV For Spoiled Sister
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I lol'ed at the thread title. 
Lucky for her, the G wagon happens to be a fine choice with excellent resale. I once knew of another spoiled girl who was always crashing hers (DUI), and I'm sure that car saved her life. It's a tank.
Lucky for her, the G wagon happens to be a fine choice with excellent resale. I once knew of another spoiled girl who was always crashing hers (DUI), and I'm sure that car saved her life. It's a tank.
for sure, the G is one of the very few cars in the market where values are ridiculously strong
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My sisters 22 years old. She's been married for a year now, and even have a baby (my niece is fkn adorable! But that's a different story), and she wants a new car.
Her husband (then boyfriend), got her her first car, which she currently drives: 2006 Range Rover. I think the car is a POS. He thinks it's a POS also. But my sister likes it.
She's wanting her car to be brand new. She's looking at either a Benz G Wagon or an Escalade. I personally don't like either one, and neither does my brother in law, but that's what she wants.
I'm trying to convince her to get something else, something more reliable and not that costly.
I showed her the Lexus NX; she thinks it's ugly. I showed her the Lexus GX; still feel's the same way.
I showed her the upcoming Audi Q7, but she'd rather have a G Wagon.
I suggested the BMW X5, but she still wants the G Wagon.
I don't know much about the Benz, other then it being very overpriced, and I don't think it's that reliable (can be wrong).
Anyway, what would you suggest for a spoiled girl who's been loving the Range Rover, G Wagon, and Escalade since HS? Personally, I think she just likes these cars cause it's popular among my nationality, and I think she's easily influenced; but that's just me.
Her husband (then boyfriend), got her her first car, which she currently drives: 2006 Range Rover. I think the car is a POS. He thinks it's a POS also. But my sister likes it.
She's wanting her car to be brand new. She's looking at either a Benz G Wagon or an Escalade. I personally don't like either one, and neither does my brother in law, but that's what she wants.
I'm trying to convince her to get something else, something more reliable and not that costly.
I showed her the Lexus NX; she thinks it's ugly. I showed her the Lexus GX; still feel's the same way.
I showed her the upcoming Audi Q7, but she'd rather have a G Wagon.
I suggested the BMW X5, but she still wants the G Wagon.
I don't know much about the Benz, other then it being very overpriced, and I don't think it's that reliable (can be wrong).
Anyway, what would you suggest for a spoiled girl who's been loving the Range Rover, G Wagon, and Escalade since HS? Personally, I think she just likes these cars cause it's popular among my nationality, and I think she's easily influenced; but that's just me.
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That is why the Canadian military bought the MB G-Wagen for use in Afghanistan.
I second others' suggestions to let your sister (and other family members) buy what vehicles they want, especially if they are ones to b*tch and complain. No need getting blamed for something they don't like.
My niece bought my 2010 Corolla at lease-end and I willingly sold it to her because I know she is a nice girl who does not complain. I considered selling my last leased vehicle (prior to the Corolla) to my wife's sister-in-law but thought better of it because I did not want to be blamed for everything, including issues that are out of my control (like design issues).
I second others' suggestions to let your sister (and other family members) buy what vehicles they want, especially if they are ones to b*tch and complain. No need getting blamed for something they don't like.
My niece bought my 2010 Corolla at lease-end and I willingly sold it to her because I know she is a nice girl who does not complain. I considered selling my last leased vehicle (prior to the Corolla) to my wife's sister-in-law but thought better of it because I did not want to be blamed for everything, including issues that are out of my control (like design issues).
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I have to at least partially disagree. It's not just a he-vs.-she marital tug-of-war. They've got a child now, with responsibilities. And they've got to plan for those responsibilities (see my last reply, just above).
For a good example, look at the way SW13GS, our CL colleague, is handling his own situation. He, IMO, is doing it correctly.
His wife has twins on the way (due in February), and he is looking at something sensible and suitable for the newly-expanded family that probably won't cost half (maybe one-third) of what a RR does...and will be more reliable.
Money may not be an issue right now, but one cannot necessarily forecast the future. Either way, that child is going to grow up and have needs.
For a good example, look at the way SW13GS, our CL colleague, is handling his own situation. He, IMO, is doing it correctly.
His wife has twins on the way (due in February), and he is looking at something sensible and suitable for the newly-expanded family that probably won't cost half (maybe one-third) of what a RR does...and will be more reliable.Money may not be an issue right now, but one cannot necessarily forecast the future. Either way, that child is going to grow up and have needs.
Oh. Not mention that she will bounce around looking for men who will fulfill her needs. Do you want that to happen? just for a secured (in your mind) financial future?
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1. The best deal
2. How you are going to pay for it
The girl(wife/sister/daughter) will enjoy life. You cannot stop that. The men of the house are thus motivated to earn more and better.
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You do that and you will have ruined this young girls life and desires for all life to come. To her, who has seen the future? Enjoy life today if you can! No point in saving up and using the money to buy luxury when you are too old to even appreciate it.
Oh. Not mention that she will bounce around looking for men who will fulfill her needs. Do you want that to happen? just for a secured (in your mind) financial future?
Oh. Not mention that she will bounce around looking for men who will fulfill her needs. Do you want that to happen? just for a secured (in your mind) financial future?
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How do you know how much money they have? And I am guessing you don't have kids but many people right here on these forums have kids, and still have nice cars if not several nice cars, it doesn't make them lesser people.....
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First, I'm not necessarily talking in specific dollars and cents, but on a principle (she's still a mother whether she is a princess or a pauper). Second, if they can actually afford a new RR AND save for the baby's future needs, then fine. All I'm saying is that, as parents, they have to put the child's needs first....as my own parents did decades ago.
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You assume at 22 years old, that has sunk in. She wants what she wants--it's not our business why she wants it. She has a husband--he can fight the good fight.
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Well, as comfortable and competent as they are off-road (where few RR owners actually GO), reliability-wise, it probably IS a POS. 
She's got a point. I'm not a big fan of the spindle-grilles myself. And neither one will have the RR's comfort-level. But both, admittedly, will likely be more reliable.
The G-Wagon is built like a tank. Shut the doors on one and the thunk is just unbelievable. It is essentially a 1980s-vintage Austrian/German military vehicle spruced in nice dress for civilian use.
Once you see how the G-Wagon is built, it's hard to pass it up if you actually have the money for one.
Again, like I said above, go check out the G-Wagon's construction/materials and you will see at least one reason for its price.
I don't know how this might (?) or might not affect either your own relationship with her as your sister or her own relationship with her husband, but, from a common-sense point of view, since she is a new mother, I'd strongly suggest her buying something maybe half of what a new RR/G-Wagon/Escalade would cost and, using the money saved to open up a fund or account for her daughter's future needs (such as medical needs or college tuition). There are PLENTY of nice SUVs on the market that can be had for 40 or 50K (even less) instead of 90-100K or more.
She's got a point. I'm not a big fan of the spindle-grilles myself. And neither one will have the RR's comfort-level. But both, admittedly, will likely be more reliable.
The G-Wagon is built like a tank. Shut the doors on one and the thunk is just unbelievable. It is essentially a 1980s-vintage Austrian/German military vehicle spruced in nice dress for civilian use.
Once you see how the G-Wagon is built, it's hard to pass it up if you actually have the money for one.
Again, like I said above, go check out the G-Wagon's construction/materials and you will see at least one reason for its price.
I don't know how this might (?) or might not affect either your own relationship with her as your sister or her own relationship with her husband, but, from a common-sense point of view, since she is a new mother, I'd strongly suggest her buying something maybe half of what a new RR/G-Wagon/Escalade would cost and, using the money saved to open up a fund or account for her daughter's future needs (such as medical needs or college tuition). There are PLENTY of nice SUVs on the market that can be had for 40 or 50K (even less) instead of 90-100K or more.
(non-MM response)
It is quite ignorant for anyone to assume because its European/German that unreliability is going to be a factor.
I owned one for 3 years and it was one of the few vehicles in my household to never require unscheduled servicing or dealer visits (other than Lexus RX, Jaguar XJs). Not just anecdotal evidence, but it speaks for itself everywhere in that front. I was quite young also when I got it and only had mine out of very unusual circumstances (originally ordered for paternal uncle), so I do not agree with the idea that because she is young it is necessarily a bad idea. The L494 Range Rover Sport has improved in reliability, so that is not exactly the worst choice either.
Not exactly better than Lexus, but the motoring experience is certainly going to be different and some will not be swayed from that to a GX (aging), RX (aging), nor NX. The Escalade, I have no words for and view it neutrally.
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As I see it, the OP asked us all to choose between one of three SUVs for his spoiled rotten little sister: the G wagon, RR, or Escalade. He did not ask us how to convince her to buy something else as he has been unsuccessful in his attempts, or how she should live her life.
Live and let live. And drive.
Live and let live. And drive.