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Old May 14, 2015 | 02:22 PM
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I am not sure how CR can continue to praise the Model S. There seems to be so many reliability issues and Insideline's Long term S can more than its fair share of problems, including changing out part of the electric drivetrain (twice if IRC)
it is really beyond me... it probably has fanatical owners that dont rate it honestly in the surveys, since a lot of these problems have been widely documented.

If this was BMW, it would likely end up being rated at the bottom of the list.
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Old May 14, 2015 | 03:57 PM
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it is really beyond me... it probably has fanatical owners that dont rate it honestly in the surveys, since a lot of these problems have been widely documented.

If this was BMW, it would likely end up being rated at the bottom of the list.
This is so scientific am I right? I got a good laugh out if it so props for that.
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Old Jul 17, 2015 | 12:41 PM
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2.8 Seconds? Damn

http://bgr.com/2015/07/17/tesla-mode..._medium=social

Tesla is known for delivering cars that have crazy acceleration, but it’s newest upgrade to the Model S P85D is positively ludicrous. Tesla on Friday announced an upgrade to its Model S car that will give it a range of 300 miles per charge and let it accelerate from 0 to 60 miles per hour in a “ludicrous” 2.8 seconds. In fact, this acceleration is so impressive that Tesla is literally calling it “Ludicrous Mode.”

The upgrade will cost $10,000 and will deliver a 10% improvement in acceleration that will let it drive a quarter of a mile in just 10.8 seconds. Interestingly, Tesla CEO Elon Musk said that the upcoming Model X vehicle will also have option for “Ludicrous Mode,” although because that vehicle is larger it will go from 0-60 in 3.3 seconds, which is still crazy for what will be a three-row SUV.

The company also made more two more announcements Friday. The first is for an upgraded battery pack with 90-kWh that will sell for $3,000 while the second is a 70-kWh single motor that will sell for $70,000.
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Old Jul 17, 2015 | 01:01 PM
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Tesla is known for delivering cars that have crazy acceleration, but it’s newest upgrade to the Model S P85D is positively ludicrous. Tesla on Friday announced an upgrade to its Model S car that will give it a range of 300 miles per charge and let it accelerate from 0 to 60 miles per hour in a “ludicrous” 2.8 seconds. In fact, this acceleration is so impressive that Tesla is literally calling it “Ludicrous Mode.”
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Old Jul 17, 2015 | 05:26 PM
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how about putting the engineering towards even more range than faster 0-60 times
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RXSF
how about putting the engineering towards even more range than faster 0-60 times
They are connected as you can see... Increasing capacity also increases maximum output from batteries.
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 08:29 AM
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I am not sure how CR can continue to praise the Model S. There seems to be so many reliability issues
It's hard to take most of what CR says seriously. Nothing in their data is ever really explained and there is no way of knowing if their data is checked for accuracy. I also would rather see their reviews be released day and date when the manufacturer lifts the embargo for reviews, I would rather see this because what they seem to do is what for everyone to say their pros and cons and then CR carefully tailors their review around them.

A few doors over, my neighbour told me that he gets the CR survey for his car, he often lets his 9 year old daughter fill out the survey.
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Old Jul 19, 2015 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Diesel350
2.8 Seconds? Damn

http://bgr.com/2015/07/17/tesla-mode..._medium=social

Tesla is known for delivering cars that have crazy acceleration, but it’s newest upgrade to the Model S P85D is positively ludicrous. Tesla on Friday announced an upgrade to its Model S car that will give it a range of 300 miles per charge and let it accelerate from 0 to 60 miles per hour in a “ludicrous” 2.8 seconds. In fact, this acceleration is so impressive that Tesla is literally calling it “Ludicrous Mode.”

The upgrade will cost $10,000 and will deliver a 10% improvement in acceleration that will let it drive a quarter of a mile in just 10.8 seconds. Interestingly, Tesla CEO Elon Musk said that the upcoming Model X vehicle will also have option for “Ludicrous Mode,” although because that vehicle is larger it will go from 0-60 in 3.3 seconds, which is still crazy for what will be a three-row SUV.

The company also made more two more announcements Friday. The first is for an upgraded battery pack with 90-kWh that will sell for $3,000 while the second is a 70-kWh single motor that will sell for $70,000.
So this is just a software unlock or load. Kind of like they did with their 40 model which in fact had 60 battery that was locked down to 40. Yeah remember 40 that was supposed to cost $50k after only fed credit, all the media was raving about it stating the price of 40 and performance of 85 in the same sentence so it seemed like OMG. Yeah well that 40 was used only for PR as "low demand" made them decide to cancel it.
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Youxia X looks like a Chinese Tesla Model S







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http://www.autoblog.com/photos/youxia-x/

If you subscribe to the notion that a product hasn't really arrived on the global stage until a Chinese company has created a knockoff, then it's time for the Tesla Model S to take a bow. The Youxia X, which was just unveiled in China, desperately wants to be a Tesla. The design similarities between the Model S and Youxia X are impossible to ignore, from the blacked-out front fascia to the shape of the car's three-pointed logo. Both are also very smoothly shaped sedans, but the Youxia incorporates some good-looking Y-shaped taillights at the rear. Inside, the vertically oriented touchscreen in the center is clearly cribbed from Tesla.

While its shape looks familiar, it's clearly not a direct copy, and regardless of what it looks like, this electric sedan might be one of the most offbeat vehicles to come along in a while. For example, the front grille has a customizable display that's capable of showing a sweeping red light inspired by KITT from Knight Rider. According to Car New China, the Knight Rider connection goes even deeper. The name Youxia Motors apparently comes from the '80s TV show's localized name there, and the sedan's infotainment system is called KITT OS. Beyond the normal controls, it can pipe in the sound of cars like Ferrari 488 GTB or Jaguar F-Type into the interior.

According to Youxia's website, the X is powered by an electric motor making 362 horsepower and 325 pound-feet of torque. The base battery offers a range of 137 miles – it's listed as having a 40 kW capacity, presumably a typo for 40 kWh. Additional battery options will allow 205 miles from 60 kWh and 286 miles from an 85 kWh unit.

Prices in China are slated to be around $47,000 to $63,000 before the country's roughly $15,000 incentive on EVs, Car News China reports. Of course, all of these specs and figures are just promises at the moment, since production of the Youxia X isn't slated to begin until late 2016 and the first deliveries in 2017. If Tesla's lawyers don't get to the company first, the X still has a whole lot to deliver on.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/07/27/y...#slide-3561399
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Old Jul 27, 2015 | 07:54 PM
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^^ Its got some L finesse to it, and some cues from Lexus concepts
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Old Jul 29, 2015 | 03:02 PM
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Default Tesla's first incentive is a $1,000 Model S referral

Whether it's to get around various state laws against selling vehicles directly to customers or just to gin up sales, Tesla Motors is starting up a brand-new referral benefit for its owners. Between now and the end of September, any Tesla driver who convinces someone else to buy a Model S will get a $1,000 Tesla credit. The buyer will also get $1,000 off the price of his or her fancy new electric vehicle.

Announcing this program today, Tesla CEO Elon Musk said that it is a way for the company to possibly save money. The average cost for Tesla to sell each car in a store is around $2,000, so handing that money directly to its drivers and new buyers could lower the overall cost down the road. Musk said that the reason the program only runs through the end of September is because it's a "short-term experiment," and that the company wants to see how it works before making a "long-term strategic decision" on where to go next.

Anyone who currently drives a Model S and has ten friends who've been thinking of buying one should really put the pressure on. Apparently, the first Model S owner in each of three regions (Asia-Pacific, Europe, and North America) to make 10 referrals will get a Model X for free. Anyone else who refers 10 people will be able to upgrade their Model X to the otherwise unable-to-be-purchased "Founder Series" for free. That upgrade will be worth about $20,000, apparently.

Musk called the new deal a "guerrilla tactic against car dealers in certain states," by which he means places like Texas and Connecticut. "I don't want to characterize that as the main reason, but it could be something that helps us," he said.
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/07/29/t...1000-referral/
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Old Aug 7, 2015 | 12:11 PM
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Old Aug 9, 2015 | 06:10 PM
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New report says tesla still losing 4k per car if leases are factored in, and 14k a car if not
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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 09:50 AM
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too cool......who needs wireless charging???
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