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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 04:20 PM
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Engine: 5.6L V8
Power: 420 HP / 417 LB-FT
Transmission: 7-Speed Auto
Drivetrain: Rear-Wheel Drive
Curb Weight: 4,313 LBS
Seating: 2+3
Cargo: 14.9 CU-FT
MPG: 16 City / 23 HWY
Base Price: $51,350

A quick look at a scatter plot that charts rear legroom against luxury sedan MSRPs reveals a dearth of spacious bargains – few, if any, luxury sedans offer exceptionally spacious rear accommodations at a relatively low starting price. To fill the vacuum, Infiniti has made its Q70 available in a Q70L variant – in English, long wheelbase – for 2015.

The artist formerly known as the Infiniti M has been available in stretched-out form in the Chinese market for two years, and the US introduction is accompanied by several updates that include slightly reworked styling cues, and refinements to the drivetrain and chassis. The Q70L's wheelbase extends 5.9 inches (with a commensurate expansion of knee room), while overall length increases to 202 inches, a 7.3-inch bump. Powertrain options include a 3.7-liter V6 which produces 330 horsepower and 270 pound-feet of torque (starting at $51,350), or a 5.6-liter V8 that yields 420 hp and 417 lb-ft (and climbs to $64,550). The long-wheelbase treatment adds $1,500 to Q70 MSRPs. Not surprisingly, the Hybrid version is not available with the L treatment.

Up to three Q70L rear passengers are treated to reading lamps, a 12-volt power outlet, rear door close assist, and available heated seats. Unlike its Far Eastern counterpart (and competitors like the $61,500 Hyundai Equus), the US-spec Q70L's rear seats don't recline. Bummer.

What to make of this stretched Infiniti that's just 1.2 inches of legroom shy of an S-Class? The Q70 has never quite compared dynamically to the Mercedes-Benz E-Class or BMW 5 Series, and the longer wheelbase makes it even harder for the Japanese sedan to compete when it comes to driving satisfaction. What the Q70L does offer, however, are rather plush interior accommodations that include available semi-analine leather and Japanese Ash trim that's been bedazzled by sprinklings of genuine silver mixed into the lacquer.

A test drive of the 2015 Infiniti Q70L through New York City and into the sinewy roads leading to Bear Mountain revealed even greater rifts between the lengthened sedan and its sporty competitors. Where does this leave Infiniti's Q70L amidst the macrocosm of luxury sedans, which include the Audi A6, Cadillac CTS, and Jaguar XF?

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  • Lengthening the wheelbase adds approximately 100 pounds of mass to the Q70L's curb weight, the equivalent of throwing a skinny kid in the back seat, give or take a few cheeseburgers. It's not a significant increase in tonnage, but the longer body makes the L variant feel noticeably less nimble than the standard-issue Q70, aided by the fact that the steering ratio has not been altered.
  • Ride quality felt somewhat busy but controlled over NYC's notoriously irregular pavement, while rural roads outside of Manhattan revealed a more sedate side to the sedan's damping.
  • The Q70L's cabin is pleasantly quiet, thanks in part to active noise canceling technology and new-for-2015 improvements including added insulation and better seals. There's still a faint but noticeable engine induction sound, which lends an air of sportiness to the aural experience.
  • Our V8-powered tester delivered strong, but not head-pinning, oomph. Despite what seemed like reasonably swift acceleration (Infiniti doesn't publish official 0-60 times), the Q70L's grunt doesn't inspire particularly leadfooted driving.
  • At least visually speaking, the Q70L's driving experience is all about the curves. Two humps dominate the instrument cluster, which is framed by the hood's bulbous profile. Arcs of wood and leather bind the interior, and the center stack is distinguished by its wave-like shape.
  • The Q70L is all about the expanded rear seating area, and a stint in its aft compartment revealed plenty of space, but a disappointing lack of amenities. Legroom is indeed generous, though the passenger experience doesn't feel particularly special. Unlike Hyundai's Equus, the Infiniti doesn't have a panel of controls that make the back perch feel like a first-class airline throne. The seats can be heated but not cooled, and they don't recline.
Perhaps this stretched-out five-seater will gain traction within that obscure segment of the population that would rather be chauffeured in midlevel luxury, rather than take the wheel themselves. We're a bit hazy on this rather specific target demographic, which seems more likely to reside in a Shanghai suburb than in a major metropolitan US city, but suppose the Q70L's sales figures will be the ultimate measure of its success.

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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 05:28 PM
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Good lawd that thing is ugly.

Won't be surprised to see the Germans bring its long wheel base models of its 5/E/A6 over here soon. I just read earlier today Volvo is bringing its S60L here sometime next year too.
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 06:23 PM
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I'm quite interested in this car (I don't think it's ugly at all) since my biggest complaint about my GSis the small rear seat...
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GFerg
Good lawd that thing is ugly.
Certainly no uglier than the current IS

Originally Posted by GFerg
Won't be surprised to see the Germans bring its long wheel base models of its 5/E/A6 over here soon. I just read earlier today Volvo is bringing its S60L here sometime next year too.
I think if this becomes a trend, it could seriously hurt flagship sales. A big advantage a flagship has over its middle class sister is size. If you take that away...

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I'm quite interested in this car (I don't think it's ugly at all) since my biggest complaint about my GSis the small rear seat...
Would you go for the 3.7 or 5.6? I'm assuming the hybrid will also be carried over, but this article failed to mention that

Anyway, it's nice to see a Japanese luxury brand still offering a V8 in this class
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 08:24 PM
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I actually think the car is attractive with the new Q50 front and updated rear. It has much more presence than the pre-facelifted Q70. Not sure that will be enough to make me consider it when I trade.
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 10:55 PM
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i'm just not digging any of the latest infiniti's design direction. looks like a bloated fish to me.
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 11:19 PM
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I kind of dig this car. Always have. I love the fact that its getting the LWB. Its always nice to have a little extra rear leg room .
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 01:48 AM
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Can't say it's looks help it.

I just can't fathom why someone would by that over a lexus GS or LS....
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The Q70 has a more definitive look to it than the Q50.

And kudos for Nissan offering a V8.
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 06:02 AM
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I like it


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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 06:31 AM
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Yuck......and mo' yuck.
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 07:04 AM
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Updates look very nice.

I think that Infiniti should add a wood/leather steering wheel, and should have also increased the size of the screen on the dash. Those two updates would have gone a long way, IMO.

I don't think that anything they've done is going to really help sales, but I guess we'll see.
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Originally Posted by Michael3UZ
Can't say it's looks help it.

I just can't fathom why someone would by that over a lexus GS or LS....
Easy. For the GS the reason would be size. Like I said, my GS is too tight in the rear for me. Its not an issue most of the time, but when it it it is. When we have people over and we go out someplace such as to dinner, we take the Jeep not the Lexus because our passengers are just not comfortable in the back of the Lexus (both my wife and I are 6' tall, so our seats are back some). I'd like to be able to take our guests out in my nice car. I wouldn't select a Q70 SWB over the GS.

For the LS the reason is cost. This car will be $15-20k cheaper than a comparable LS for a similarly sized car. Very attractive.

One issue with the M over the GS was refinement. The M was a little rougher around the engines than the GS, hopefully they've addressed that.

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Would you go for the 3.7 or 5.6? I'm assuming the hybrid will also be carried over, but this article failed to mention that
I would get the 3.7. Wouldn't even consider the 5.6.
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The 5.6 is fun madness
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 11:44 AM
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If I had a corporate fuel account I'd get it, but since I'm my own corporation I'll pass LOL
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