bitkahuna

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back to the mkc... anyone disappointed it only has turbo 4 engines?

doge

Looks like that's the trend

Both iterations of the nx are I4. I think that's what we'll end up seeing from everyone in the near future.

Hoovey689

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Ford has an arsenal of V6 powertrains so it is dissapointing. For fun, what if the EcoBoost 2.7L V6 found it's way into the MKC engine bay..

mmarshall

True. I didn't say otherwise. I pointed out, though, that that's one cause of failure.


In the review (I'm assuming you read it) I mentioned several places that I thought the lack of a V6 was a minus.

mmarshall

Can you spell C-A-F-E?

pbm317

Nope, not every vehicle in every segment needs a V6. If we truly wanted smooth, I'd say we all need Inline 6's.

The tuning of 4 cylinders has been quite good in the overall market for some time now.

This new compact luxury utility segment isn't targeted for the utmost in refinement. How else could they entice you to move up to the more premium midsize and then full size utilities?

They've achieved enough in terms of content and improvement over the mainstream models. You get what you pay for.

doge

They do but he Escape/Kuga/MKC were never designed with a v6 in mind. They would essentially have to hot rod it. However if they introduced a diesel, all would be forgiven.

mmarshall

The 2.7L probably wouldn't need the turbo. If HP/torque is the object, they already have that with the 2.3L turbo (more than 300 ft-lbs.). With the V6, refinement is the issue....something that is usually best done N/A.

Hoovey689

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If that's the case their probably better off with one of their 3.5L V6's. The 2.7L NA probably makes what the current IS250 2.5 makes. But it is EcoBoosted in the F-150

mmarshall

Yes, Ford is doing a lot of advertising (particularly on TV) with that V6 Ecoboost F-150. I'm not convinced it's the right engine for that truck, but on the other hand, my opinion is not the last word on it. I admit I'm not a pickup expert, never having owned one.

FrankReynoldsCPA

It might not be, but the point is they didn't get rid of the 5.0 and say tough luck, you get v6. You can choose between the 2.7 ecoboost, the 3.5 ecoboost, the 3.5 NA, and the 5.0.

The 2.7 will be great for the huge segment of half-ton buyers that buy a truck to putt around in. That 2.7 makes more HP and TQ than the 5.8 in my dad's F350, and that truck does its job just fine.

I still think they should offer a supercharged 6.2 or at least supercharge the 5.0 for fun.

Hoovey689

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Currently you are referring to the 3.5L V6 EcoBoost. To my knowledge the 2.7L V6 EcoBoost has not been aired yet. Regardless the EcoBoosts combined are supposed to combine for some 56%* of F-150 sales (Official 2015 F-150 Thread). With over 300hp and 300lbft in both mills it should be plenty. Those that need a V8 will get the V8.

mmarshall

Yep you're right. Sorry....a typo on my part. 3.5L it is.

mmarshall

The latest Silverado TV ads are specifically targeting the Ecoboost F-150s, claiming that Chevy gets better mileage with their V8s. I'm staying out of that one...the endless war between Ford and Chevy pick-ups has been going on for decades, and probably will still be when I'm dead and gone.

oldcajun

Mike,
What the Chevy ads don't say is that the Ecoboost V-6 makes more power and torque than their V-8 and has a higher towing capacity. It all depends on how you slant data.

You're right about the CAFE standards driving most of the modern engine technology. Unfortunately, the driving factor is test numbers, not real world mileage. "Your mileage may vary"
Steve