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Not as of now. I covered that in the review. A shame, too...the moderately-priced, roomy Chrysler Lebaron/Sebring/200 convertibles before it were quite popular, as it was the only affordable convertible in the American market with a fairly usable back seat for at least two adults. Pontiac briefly did a retracting-hardtop G6 in the same general price range as competition, but it only lasted a couple of years, and, of course, went down with Pontiac's ship. However, the previous Chrysler convertibles, despite their usefulness and popularity, weren't exactly built like tanks. Even with the typical added frame-bracing and other convertible-reinforcements, they suffered from more than their share of rattles/squeaks and shimmies/flexes.
Last edited by mmarshall; Jun 22, 2014 at 02:12 PM.
I'm also having trouble understanding how someone who can solicit opinions on a purchase of a car from a forum full of total strangers has the stones to criticize a car review from an experienced reviewer in that same forum. https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car-...4-corolla.html
Originally Posted by jwong77
Agreed, MMarshall is free to express his feelings about a car all he wants (and frankly I appreciate his reviews). He doesn't break forum rules, is not rude and simply provides his insights. Don't listen to the critiques MMarshall, keep doing your thing!
Thanks, tex, and thanks, jwong. I appreciate your comments. If you two want more reviews, more are coming.
I watched the Motor week segment yesterday on it and it is a HUGE step up over the last gen. Not bad but I dont think its going to topple Camry or Accord
No chance at toppling the Camry or Accord. Both the Accord and Camry are still a few cuts above what American manufacturers have to offer.
So I guess we should just compare the 200C to IS, 3 series, and maybe a C-Class? I cannot believe the level of incompetence from some.
The 200C is nowhere near any of those three. The bumper to bumper warranty is not the same among other things.
A fully loaded maxed out 299c awd comes in at $32,180....how can you honestly say someone will be cross shopping with a Audi? Let alone a Lexus or Merc.
Buick is not even a luxury car and the 200C still doesn't compete with a Verano.
This is why citizen journalism is bad for society.
I dont know where you get your prices from but a Loaded 200C AWD tops out at $37,455...
No chance at toppling the Camry or Accord. Both the Accord and Camry are still a few cuts above what American manufacturers have to offer.
Both are well-built, proven, and have low depreciation. But, from my experience, because of recent cost-cutting, they (now) seem to lack the interior plushness, sound-isolation, and ride comfort of the new 200 with 17" wheels/tires. They also lack an optional AWD system, at least in the American market. However, you are correct that sales of both are not likely to tank anytime soon. Both have become mainstays in the American mid-sized sedan market....and aren't going anywhere.
Last edited by mmarshall; Jun 22, 2014 at 09:39 PM.
Though in a recent M/T Comparison. the 200 placed 3rd, ahead of the Accord SE and thats just with the 200 Limited with the 2.4Lh
Welcome to CL as a brand-new poster. Glad to have you.
Slightly off-topic a little, but I noticed your 69gtsDart screen name. Do you (or did you) own a Dart GTS? I grew up with the late 60s American muscle cars in high school, and remember that car well, especially with its 340 V8 (a few of them had the big 383 stuffed in), Bumble-Bee trunk-stripes, and the bright pastel body colors. The GTS was basically the Dart Swinger with a big engine, and it was a natural competitor to the Chevy Nova SS (and to the much lower-selling AMC Rambler Scrambler).
Last edited by mmarshall; Jun 22, 2014 at 09:52 PM.
Yea i own a Red (Viper Red) 1969 GTS Dart (Originally a GT cloned as a GTS) Convert., in 1969, that was the last year of the GTS, it changed to the Swingers in the 70's with the bright colors.