2014 J.D. Power Initial Quality Study
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I'm sure J.D. Power is aware of them........and of the recent questions on Toyota/Lexus throttle-assemblies. They were taken into consideration on the chart.....probably also along with all of the Ford problems with SYNC/MyTouch.
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The best way to judge cars is in person. A quality vehicle has tight panel gaps, good paint finish, solid fitted parts etc. Everything looks impeccable.
Lexus is tops in this regard.
Followed by Honda & Toyota. Nissan is not as good, mainly due to the Renualt affiliation, Infiniti is good tho.
Lexus is tops in this regard.
Followed by Honda & Toyota. Nissan is not as good, mainly due to the Renualt affiliation, Infiniti is good tho.
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No, not always. Tight panel-gaps are an often-quoted stereotype of quality, but sometimes vehicles have wider gaps for a reason. Some types of body-panel materials expand and contract strongly in the heat or cold (plastic panels are especially well-known for that). That requires wider gaps just to allow for expansion and the doors being able to open and close all the way without binding on the one next to it. Plastic-body Saturns were once criticized (unfairly) for very wide gaps when they were, in fact, a manufacturing necessity. Same with older, fiberglass-body Corvettes. Aluminum also has to have (sometimes) different gaps than sheet-steel because of different heating/expansion properties.
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I wish they had critical failure rating system.
If the sunglasses holder fails, the scoring we are seeing seems to weight that as equal to the tranny seizing and we all know the two are not equal.
If the sunglasses holder fails, the scoring we are seeing seems to weight that as equal to the tranny seizing and we all know the two are not equal.
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I dunno, it is too early to tell how bad a 2014 GM product will be in 2024, but I am willing to bet it will be the same old crap that is hitting the 10 year mark now.
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At the rate we're going, we won't even be driving cars in ten years. The computers will be doing everything for us, with imbedded electronics in the roadway. Then the electronics in the roadway will get eaten up by rain, snow, salt, corrosion, and potholes.....and the cars won't run at all. Then we'll talk about the good old days back in 2014.
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Don't know about J.D. Power, but Consumer Reports does give more weight to major engine/transmission/drive-line problems than the rest of the car, simply because of the impact, cost of repair, and potential time spent out of service.
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I dunno. If I were a GM owner, I wouldn't be calling 2014 the good days. I would be PLENTY pissed right about now. I hear GM is drilling the keys to solve the problem? Really, that is a el cheapo fix. And what happens when the car is sold and someone does not know about the fiasco. Or what if someone duplicats the keys. I am sure there are other major issues at GM that have not yet been uncovered.
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I dunno. If I were a GM owner, I wouldn't be calling 2014 the good days. I would be PLENTY pissed right about now. I hear GM is drilling the keys to solve the problem? Really, that is a el cheapo fix. And what happens when the car is sold and someone does not know about the fiasco. Or what if someone duplicats the keys. I am sure there are other major issues at GM that have not yet been uncovered.
