jimxo

I'm wondering if Asian car fans here would consider buying a GM product as there next car. If so what car, if not why have you written GM off

Also where do you think Hyundai ranks with Honda, Toyota, Nissan ?

Thanks for your feed back.

lamar411

Tahoe and Escalade appeal to me, Cruze as well. I would rank them Toyota, Honda, Nissan tied with Hyundai.

corradoMR2

Appealing enough to buy? Not yet today. Has my interest improved towards GM over the last 2-3 years? Yes. If they keep up the release of Lexus-like quality products like the new CTS, miracles may happen.

My appeal from best to worst:

Toyota
Honda/Hyundai (tied)
Nissan


PS, this would make for a good poll.

mmarshall

GM is making some excellent vehicles nowadays. The Buick Verano impressed me so much I bought one. The Chevy Sonic, Cruze, Malibu, Impala, Silverado/GMC Sierra, Buick Regal, LaCrosse, and Cadillac ATS and CTS are all nice competent designs....especially the new 2014 Impala, whose comfort and road-manners are superb. Consumer Reports gave the new Impala 95 out of 100 in its road-test, which is unheard of for a sedan in the 30-40K class that the Impala competes in.

GM, unfortunately, has also recently done a couple of what IMO are flops. I'm not impressed with the Buick Encore, which is too short/stubby, awkward-looking, and underpowered. Nor am I impressed with the Cadillac XTS, which may have a nice interior, but, like the Lincoln MKS, rides too firmly and stiffly to be a true sedan-flagship like the DTS was. The Cadillac CUE system is also awkward to use and has been a source of numerous customer complaints.

Hyundai and Kia products, IMO are still, in general, a better value-per-dollar deal then the Japanese brands. But that lead is generally shrinking as Hyundai/Kia prices have risen markedly and their build-solidness dropped. The Elantra still seems solidly-built (as are most Kias), but many other newer Hyundai products seem to have dropped off on sheet-metal thickness and interior-hardware solidness, which seemed to have reached its peak around 2006. Newer Hyundais since the mid-2000s, besides often having what IMO is awkward styling, seem to have the cost-cutters determining more and more what goes into the materials they use for their production vehicles.

mikersoft

iTrader: (1)

Sure, there are a few. However, each have reasons for me to not consider a purchase.

1. CTS-V - Price for new one too high, and I'd have long term reliability concerns if I kept one awhile or purchased pre-owned.

2. C7 Corvette - I would have seriously considered one if I had a three car garage. A car like that wouldn't be a good DD for me, and I wouldn't want to give up the garage space in winter. I hate scraping windows at 6am!

3. Camaro Z/28 - Even though Camaros have become ubiquitous around here, this one looks really cool IMO. However, it would certainly be impractical at that price point given the lack of driver amenities (like AC!)

-Mike

FishBike

My first two cars were GM products. They were both bad, but the second in particular (a 1990 model bought when it was 2 years old) was so poorly engineered and built I decided I would never again buy a GM vehicle.

mmarshall

Yep...that's exactly what I felt like after my POS 1980 Chevy Citation.....and also a lot of bad luck with Chrysler Omni/Horizon and K-cars of the period. The ill-fated GM X-Body FWD compacts were designs that held enormous promise IF they had been done correctly, but their legendary design and production sloppiness set records for numbers of recalls and defects. I kept mine less than two years, and then got rid of it in disgust, selling it off cheap to a guy who didn't mind what problems it had had....I was honest in what I told him.

But times DO change.

The average GM product of today (especially the ones I listed in my post above) is as different from what they were 30 years ago as Molly Cyrus is from a nun.

edgeucated

iTrader: (4)

The only care from GM i would consider is the CTS-V. But for that money, there's many other options i would want.

my rankings are:
1. toyota
2. honda/nissan
3. hyundai

mmarshall

Do you think the CTS-V is worth what it cost? Yes, it may have some kick-a** road manners and a nice interior, but it also runs some BIG $$$$$$$.

LexFather

Yup.. Particularly the C7 vette which is utterly sensational and I enjoyed my time with it. The CtS wagon also appeals to me. The Camaro is lovely and so are the trucks and SUVs. I love that red leather is an option on the ATS.

I'm curious to try out the new impala.

pbm317

C7 Vette, Escalade, and CTS V Sport would be high on my list of potential cars in those respective segments.

FrankReynoldsCPA

Corvette, Camaro, CTS are all very attractive.

I also like the new Silverado/Sierra twins. I enjoyed the 2013 Suburban i drove last summer for work, and the Cruze rental car we had in Hawaii impressed me enough to put it on my short list of cars(though I ultimately bumped up to the mid-size market and bought a Ford).

I think GM has made a good deal of improvement.

cino

iTrader: (1)

C7, ATS and CTS.

Hoovey689

iTrader: (16)

Latest CTS VSport and upcoming CTS-V forsure

Fizzboy7

Yes, GM has risen a lot recently. mmarshall summed it up well, as well as the progress of other brands.
I like the new ATS and CTS's body, and the upcoming Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon look very sharp and modern (far more than the new Silverado/Sierra). The new Tahoe/Yukon feature some nice touches, but the boxy and retro side window treatment is a huge turnoff.

A few other areas that leave me cold with the rest of the line-up include the below average reliability, their continued use of gaudy chrome trim all over the dahsboard and buttons, and the lack of conventional manumatic shifting.