Bmw m3 & m4 reveal
12-11-13, 11:25 PM
#76
Lexus needs to realize this and know that if they want to achieve true parity with their major competition in regards to Luxury and Performance then to fortify their position it will take full dedication to both with emphasis towards establishing the F line as the constant apex of Lexus performance.
12-12-13, 12:03 AM
#78
Lexus Champion
12-12-13, 12:11 AM
#79
Porsche are overpriced, OK, but they have 6 cylinder cars well over $100k so an $80k 6 cylinder Porsche would seem like a relative bargain!
12-12-13, 02:48 AM
#80
Pole Position
Although both the F-Type and M4 are daily drivable, both take on two different personas with the Jaguar going more the Grand Touring route as expected. Jags have always had an heir for luxury and refinement but also quick reflexes similar to the feline it shares it's name with whereas the BMW is more "hardcore", tuned for time attacks and CF laden. Both have plenty of pedigree and style and both have accolades that are superior to each other. To each their own, I like both.
12-12-13, 04:06 AM
#82
Lexus Test Driver
Again base price of the new M3/4 will be in the mid-$60k range only slightly more than E92!
12-12-13, 09:56 AM
#84
Lead Lap
I tend to agree with Mr. Burns to a certain degree but it is just a personal thing for me and they will sell so obviously they are worth it to many. I just have a hard time paying $90k for a performance version of a 3 series BMW. Same goes for the 1 series BMW that is $50k which is supposed to be an incredible track car but $50k for such a small car? That just doesn't make sense to me personally. If the M3/4 was going to be $70k it appeals to me more. For $90k I want it to look a lot different than the regular 3 series. Same goes for the GT500, it is a great car but I have a hard time paying $65k-$70k for a car that looks too much like a regular mustang. I think the problem is cars are just getting more expensive than they used to be and I am struggling with that, I mean an IS350 I look at at the dealer was $50k! I just am not used to that yet.
12-12-13, 10:43 AM
#86
I tend to agree with Mr. Burns to a certain degree but it is just a personal thing for me and they will sell so obviously they are worth it to many. I just have a hard time paying $90k for a performance version of a 3 series BMW. Same goes for the 1 series BMW that is $50k which is supposed to be an incredible track car but $50k for such a small car? That just doesn't make sense to me personally. If the M3/4 was going to be $70k it appeals to me more. For $90k I want it to look a lot different than the regular 3 series. Same goes for the GT500, it is a great car but I have a hard time paying $65k-$70k for a car that looks too much like a regular mustang. I think the problem is cars are just getting more expensive than they used to be and I am struggling with that, I mean an IS350 I look at at the dealer was $50k! I just am not used to that yet.
^^ this, i can buy. i also think car prices are inflating so much the past years (obviously more than my salary) that i have a hard time justifying most of the prices.
however looking at the whole market, it is what it is. the m3/m4 is expensive? i think the new is350 at 50k really expensive. the new gs350 at 60k too, very expensive. but i say the same on 335 and 535 as well. but overall when i look at everything on the market, they all seems to be priced relatively "reasonably well" from each other
just that my wallet...
12-12-13, 11:59 AM
#87
Lexus Test Driver
^^ this, i can buy. i also think car prices are inflating so much the past years (obviously more than my salary) that i have a hard time justifying most of the prices.
however looking at the whole market, it is what it is. the m3/m4 is expensive? i think the new is350 at 50k really expensive. the new gs350 at 60k too, very expensive. but i say the same on 335 and 535 as well. but overall when i look at everything on the market, they all seems to be priced relatively "reasonably well" from each other
just that my wallet...
however looking at the whole market, it is what it is. the m3/m4 is expensive? i think the new is350 at 50k really expensive. the new gs350 at 60k too, very expensive. but i say the same on 335 and 535 as well. but overall when i look at everything on the market, they all seems to be priced relatively "reasonably well" from each other
just that my wallet...
U want overpriced - A fully loaded Mazda 3 is now $30k lol, thats just nuts! We are NOT even talking about the performance model here.
Last edited by RNM GS3; 12-12-13 at 12:03 PM.
12-12-13, 12:50 PM
#90
Wait, what happened to all the exposed carbon on the front and rear bumper? the one I saw on the road with little to no camouflage has exposed carbon like in the earlier spy photos