I8ABMR

Are they ever going to bring the Type R to the US?? These guys are morons for not bringing it here. We have one of the largest tuner scenes on earth here in the states so what the hell is going through their minds

spwolf

is Type R even interesting anymore? 280hp that does 0-60 in 5.8s?

I wish they made it AWD and not FWD.

yowps3

Well if it's anything like Ecoboost then it would be slower and guzzle more gas.

nabbun

Honda was always known for making great handling FWD cars. Their civics, accords of days yonder and integras have such a direct connection to the road. AWD would muddle that. Plus, it add weight. Honda doesn't like to complicate their cars too much. I respect them for that. Take a look at the Ford Focus ST. It's a FWD monster with some pretty trick traction control and I think an e-diff up front that takes care of the torque steer. An example of torque steer, take a look at the 1st gen Mazdaspeed 3. MB decided to tackle the power with a FWD based AWD system and it's wonderful as well. However, MB can get away with adding cost to their cars because of the premium pricing model they use. Honda would have to spend more money of developing an AWD system to incorporate that into the new civic type-r. it wouldn't be so appealing if a new civic type r moved up in pricing and ended up costing more than their competition.

Hoovey689

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Honda has it's own AWD system and let's not forget they produce the amazing SH-AWD. They are more than capable. They just refuse

SteVTEC

Yup brilliant engineers at Honda, held back by stubborn and ultra-conservative mis-managers. One wasted decade down, and another on the way.

nabbun

But the thing is it's not cheap to do R&D to get it to work optimally in the civic. Add to that the cost of the system over their FWD setup and then the civic type r is now going to cost a few grand more. Therein lies the issue. Cost, weight and complexity.

Hoovey689

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Quite frankly I don't know what $$$ they put into their R&D these days. Probably seeds. And they wonder why consumer interest or those seeds for that matter don't grow

GSteg

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Type R models were always about 'less is more'. AWD is going to add weight, period.

spwolf

hopefully by doing it in 2014, they will not make same mistake as Ford... Same goes for Toyota's new 2.0t.

Aron9000

Sounds like how things used to be run at GM. At least Honda managers had the foresight to not let quality slip that badly.

spwolf

Here is one pic from Tokyo auto show today I think.

Guess who is at helm of Toyota and Honda respectively.

Wont be hard

spwolf

Here are two more:

Hoovey689

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Akio seems to be a fun guy

yowps3

Whenever any company or brand becomes too Americanised with a significant American management influence, quality and engineering go down for the sake of shareholder profit.