i tend to think yes as well. the more i see on the road, the more i do feel it's about the same size of c class except penalty in the rear room, and i think a little cheaper too (with more exciting styling imho)

 

Nice infograph here if someone can transpose the graph. Having issues with my Mac

 

RLX: 830

Wow... haha.

 

Why did BMW merge 3 and 4 sales? Da heck?

 

huh? the C class sold 6000+ units, thats about what it usually sells at. So no, I don't think the CLA took sales from the C. Together, they make up 10K + sales which is remarkable

 

Like its brother Outback, the Forester is a classic modern cult-mobile, with a dedicated set of followers. It would sell no matter how much Subaru cheapens or decontents it....the 2008/09 redesign proved that. And, over and above that, I have to disagree that it now has an 80s cabin. Back then, many interiors didn't even have covered/wrapped steering wheels....you gripped a hard rim of plastic. You blew the horn with El Cheapo buttons on the steering-wheel spokes, often hard to find quickly in an emergency. Heat-vents were only on the floor, not at dash-height like today. And many interiors were not only monotone, but, outside of luxury/upscale vehicles, didn't even have contrasting trim-strips.

 

My thoughts:

MB/BMW are killing it in sales.
BMW still has new X5, 4Series (Xdrive), and 2Series which will increase sales even higher.

MB CLA is everywhere in NYC - actually surprised it didnt sell over 10,000 units lol. Car is hideous imo, esp the ones without LED light package.

3/4Series at over 11,000 units.

MB Eclass - what can u say, its like the Camry of luxury midsize cars.

IS selling well so far at 3,570 this month. (would like to see it do 5,000/month)

LS at over 1,000 units - very surprising.

RX is unstoppable as usual.

GS at only 1,293 units - another horrendous month. A6 is even selling better than GS, now with the Caddy CTS coming out......lots of competition - Lexus needs to do something ASAP to save it.
GS-F to the rescue

 

A $75K-$80K GS-F will be a hard sell.

 

I was half serious.... but it will have halo effect and bring some more attention to the GS lineup as a whole. - Def can't hurt at this point.

 

1200 units was only down about 15% to last year. You do not understand how sales work and every month regurgitate the same wrong points. How many times must one say there is no 4 cylinder GS like the 5 series or A6 offers?

Smh every month making up **** to bash the GS

 

No one's bashing the GS, just telling the facts. The A6 also had 4-cylinder before against the 3GS, yet the 3GS beat it badly. It's just a fact now that the A6 and GS have crossed streams with their latest generation models, with the A6 being much more popular than the new GS. Whereas before the GS was always the perennial 3rd place behind 5-series and E-class, it's been replaced by the A6 recently. It's just facts, sadly.

 

Got to agree with bit on this one...the interior of the Forester is pretty bad.

 

Because there is no more 3-series coupe. It is strictly 4-series.

The better sales comparison, I guess, would be the 3-series only vs. IS

or, the 3IS needs a coupe.

 

because they've gone off volvo

and many do, but subaru has a MUCH stronger image for the outdoorsy crowd as the go anywhere, but 'sensible' non-real-suv-world-destroying type vehicles.

so true! subaru engines are TOUGH too, which the sensible crowd likes (drive 'em forever) and the enthusiast crowd likes (drive the snot out of 'em).

 

But 6 and 5 is not merged. I would have liked to see the breakdown.