MM Full-Review: 2014 Kia Sorento
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the fact that the pricing overlaps just slightly is really irrelevant.
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Why don't you watch your tone? He's a Proven Lexus owner and he's been asked about his car and now insulted by you.
I agree 40k for it is nuts I don't care if it washes your clothes. They won't sell for that anyway, MSRP will be discounted heavily and most sold are not priced like this.
97SC is right at 40k a NAMEPLATE really starts to factor in. Most 7 seaters are not bought b/c of need but b/c it's a nice feature they might need. Its the reason why people prefer a base bare 320 at 35k then a loaded Sonata.
Badge. Those that are fans of brands that have no badge power seem to not understand this concept on the Internet.
I agree 40k for it is nuts I don't care if it washes your clothes. They won't sell for that anyway, MSRP will be discounted heavily and most sold are not priced like this.
97SC is right at 40k a NAMEPLATE really starts to factor in. Most 7 seaters are not bought b/c of need but b/c it's a nice feature they might need. Its the reason why people prefer a base bare 320 at 35k then a loaded Sonata.
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My bad. His points were all over the place.
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So I guess you're the guy that will go and pay $40k+ on a midsize KIA SUV and walk away feeling like you've made a smart decision? If that's the case, then there really is a market for this thing.
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Which points exactly were all over the place? The fact that I didn't realize this was a 7 seater? Simple mistake that is easily overlooked when you consider the actual size of this car. It's not a Land Cruiser. It's not a full size SUV either. I bet that third seat is like the back seat of a SC430. Useless.
So I guess you're the guy that will go and pay $40k+ on a midsize KIA SUV and walk away feeling like you've made a smart decision? If that's the case, then there really is a market for this thing.
So I guess you're the guy that will go and pay $40k+ on a midsize KIA SUV and walk away feeling like you've made a smart decision? If that's the case, then there really is a market for this thing.
And Im sure some people do feel like they get a more for their buck for a fully loaded version Sorrento rather than a base entry level luxury SUV (A poster in here posted his fully loaded Sorrento and felt happy about his purchase). Just like Im sure a ton of people feel great when they pay for a fully loaded Accord or Camry rather than a base 320i or A4 or C250 or IS. People view things differently in life. Not everything is brand name all the time for a lot of people who has money to spare. And I'm sure for some, brand name is everything. Again, options to choose from.
The fact that the consumers benefit when carmakers are focusing on giving the value to the consumers, and allowing them to choose. We should all be glad for that.
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I finally searched.. You had a 2001 accord and now 2012 accord so it all makes sense now...
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there's no need to make it personal. the market has spoken. 'this thing' sells. you may loathe that fact, the vehicle, or the people that buy them. to quote a past politician, you're entitled to your own opinions. but you're not entitled to your own facts.
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Guys knock off the personal commentary or exit this thread. Keep it focused on the vehicle being discussed here.
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Originally Posted by 97-SC300
The fact that this Kia, I don't care how loaded it is, is anywhere near the price territory of an RX350 is just beyond a joke.
Last edited by mmarshall; 08-25-13 at 07:37 PM.
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Bit- agreed... BUT... only thing mine happens to lack is NAV and XM standard... its got voice, thumping bass (can't put it all the way up) on mid-level stereo, back-up camera, leather & suede seats,comes with Pandora & blue tooth so I can run it either way, regular trip/mileage computer... I'll post some additional pics on interior if I ever get time...
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I'd say you get your money's worth with an RX....although the Hybrid models are quite pricey. But, even the base RX350 (starting at 40K) is outstandingly refined and well-built. The only significant complaints I had with the last one I reviewed are the mouse-operated video-screen system (which is difficult to use when the car is in motion, as it causes multi-tasking) and the (slightly) stiffer-than-necessary suspension, which doesn't using help the mouse, either.....especially over bumps. Compare the 40K Sorento SX Limited with the 40K base RX350, and you will find that they are both excellent and refined SUVs.
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MODEL REVIEWED: 2014 Kia Sorento AWD SX-L (Limited)
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Third-Row Seat/Rear Air-Conditioning: $1200
Third-Row Seat/Rear Air-Conditioning: $1200
agree with your plusses. also would add the tilt/telescope wheel has a huge range of travel, combined with the huge leg room range made for an exceptionally comfortable driving position for a tall guy like me. loved that. also, compared to say a new explorer i checked out recently with the big hood bulge that from the driver's seat was like looking out of a container ship this sorrento feels like driving a regular sedan with short hood.
power folding mirrors and vast panaromic sun roof are also impressive as is the uvo infotainment/nav system. screen was really nice and clear.
i also liked how the speedometer is actually an lcd with lots of configurable information in it.
comments on some of your minuses:
>Roly-Poly handling.
maybe you're comparing to a car. i took a 90 degree corner at reasonable speed and was impressed how flat it took it.
>Relatively slow steering response.
there's actually 3 steering modes you can set for how responsive it is.
>So-so stereo sound quality.
agreed with limited test with xm radio, but then xm isn't the best sound source. my '06 limited explorer has GREAT sound.
>Front seats not particularly supportive.
seemed great to me, and agree nappa leather on limited model definitely better than lower trim leather
>Large, wide D-pillars and smallish rear window restrict some rear-vision.
with blind spot monitoring, rear view camera and parking sensors, who cares?
>Hard-to-reach temporary spare tire located under rear bumper.
my explorer is same (at least it's full size though).
i would also add that limited testing with the voice recognition didn't impress me (but then i've yet to be in a car where it has).
also, the 6 speed auto transmission (which the sales guy incorrectly stated was cvt - but he was obviously confused with the cvvt engine feature ) seemed aggressive in engine braking so the car doesn't 'coast' easily. but the car was certainly 'peppy'.
anyway, thanks again for a great review. overall i found the '14 sorento an impressive package, especially in limited trim.
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.........".And, as always, Happy Car-Shopping".
my test driver didn't have the third row, which was good because i'm not interested, and i could also see how that affects storage. without the third row, the place where they would fold into the floor becomes another covered big but shallow storage compartment.
agree with your plusses. also would add the tilt/telescope wheel has a huge range of travel, combined with the huge leg room range made for an exceptionally comfortable driving position for a tall guy like me. loved that. also, compared to say a new explorer i checked out recently with the big hood bulge that from the driver's seat was like looking out of a container ship this sorrento feels like driving a regular sedan with short hood.
comments on some of your minuses:
>Roly-Poly handling.
maybe you're comparing to a car. I took a 90 degree corner at reasonable speed and was impressed how flat it took it.
>Roly-Poly handling.
maybe you're comparing to a car. I took a 90 degree corner at reasonable speed and was impressed how flat it took it.
>Relatively slow steering response.
there's actually 3 steering modes you can set for how responsive it is.
there's actually 3 steering modes you can set for how responsive it is.
So-so stereo sound quality.
agreed with limited test with xm radio, but then xm isn't the best sound source. my '06 limited explorer has GREAT sound.
agreed with limited test with xm radio, but then xm isn't the best sound source. my '06 limited explorer has GREAT sound.
Front seats not particularly supportive.
seemed great to me, and agree nappa leather on limited model definitely better than lower trim leather
seemed great to me, and agree nappa leather on limited model definitely better than lower trim leather
The seats and pull-out thigh-support on the new Cadillac XTS, for example, which I just finished reviewing, did a noticeably better job of supporting a person my size than the Sorento's.
Large, wide D-pillars and smallish rear window restrict some rear-vision.
with blind spot monitoring, rear view camera and parking sensors, who cares?
with blind spot monitoring, rear view camera and parking sensors, who cares?
>Hard-to-reach temporary spare tire located under rear bumper.
my explorer is same (at least it's full size though).
my explorer is same (at least it's full size though).
i would also add that limited testing with the voice recognition didn't impress me (but then i've yet to be in a car where it has).
Anyway, thanks again for a great review. overall i found the '14 sorento an impressive package, especially in limited trim.
Last edited by mmarshall; 09-06-13 at 08:51 AM.
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