E63 AMG thoughts.
Lead Lap
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From: Washington
These aren't huge unreliable monsters, but this ain't no Lexus.
There's a kit out there to retrofit the upgraded head bolt if that scares you away. The 6.3 V8 is much more visceral loud, being a NA motor that loves to read. However, if you're looking for pure power the TT V8 is the way to go. Yes you can chip it, but it also comes with huge amounts of torque right at the bottom of the tach from the factory.
These aren't huge unreliable monsters, but this ain't no Lexus.
These aren't huge unreliable monsters, but this ain't no Lexus.
the car im lookin at has bout 40k miles...is that too much? i also drive a ton..
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...Index=10&Log=0
I personally would stay away from that car. A good friend of mine had a 2010 for a year and it was pretty disappointing to see how that year unfolded. I had just purchased my ISF at the time so we tried to race in stock trim from a stop, roll and highway. We where both amazed that he couldn't catch me even once. After that we went to the drag strip where the punishment continued, but at that time I had modded my car.
He ended up having tons of issues with the car ......trans not shifting right, suspension banging, diff. clunking, tons of issues with the key not working (no start) and an ever lingering issue of the car running differently everyday as if the tune would change. After about a year he had enough and took a good hit trading it in.
He ended up having tons of issues with the car ......trans not shifting right, suspension banging, diff. clunking, tons of issues with the key not working (no start) and an ever lingering issue of the car running differently everyday as if the tune would change. After about a year he had enough and took a good hit trading it in.
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From: FL
Better performing car overall. How many cars can you take down the quarter mile in 12 seconds while having your back massaged? Most people who buy these cars cash or lease them could give a rats *** about maintenance costs. Reliability? If that's what's important to someone then they are buying the wrong car, go buy a Camry. If money were no issue I would hands down take the E63, for those on a budget the IS-F makes more sense.
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Lead Lap
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From: Washington
yeah i think ima stick with the 6.3 v8 plus its in my range...the ttv8 is 20g above my limit lol...
the car im lookin at has bout 40k miles...is that too much? i also drive a ton..
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...Index=10&Log=0
the car im lookin at has bout 40k miles...is that too much? i also drive a ton..
http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...Index=10&Log=0
I can't recommend the ISF either, just because of its ride quality. If the roads near you are smooth, however...get that.
If given the option, I would choose the 6.2L V8 (remember it only uses the 6.3 moniker for homage purposes). One of the most incredible V8 sounds you'll ever hear. It's like a banshee being shot out of a howitzer cannon.
The twin turbo 5.5L V8 does benefit from slightly better mileage and you can tune them. In fact a CLS 63 AMG with a Renntech tune is on my must have list
The twin turbo 5.5L V8 does benefit from slightly better mileage and you can tune them. In fact a CLS 63 AMG with a Renntech tune is on my must have list
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From: Singapore
Better performing car overall. How many cars can you take down the quarter mile in 12 seconds while having your back massaged? Most people who buy these cars cash or lease them could give a rats *** about maintenance costs. Reliability? If that's what's important to someone then they are buying the wrong car, go buy a Camry. If money were no issue I would hands down take the E63, for those on a budget the IS-F makes more sense.
faster in a straightline, bigger back seat, more cushy ride
everything else it loses to the IS-F
Got it .
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From: NC
I don't know anybody with an E63AMG, so can't comment on the reliability. Model you posted a link for is 2010, can you get an extended warranty and how long would it last.
However, if you are looking at used RWD performance sedans with more room, 2012 Jag XF 5.0 v8 can be had with low miles for ~40-45k (<15k miles) that stickers new for >60k.
Pretty sure the V8 models come pretty fully loaded (suede roof liner and all leather dash like the AMG mercedes models that I've sat in) plus better audio system (merdian (used to be B&W).
However, if you are looking at used RWD performance sedans with more room, 2012 Jag XF 5.0 v8 can be had with low miles for ~40-45k (<15k miles) that stickers new for >60k.
Pretty sure the V8 models come pretty fully loaded (suede roof liner and all leather dash like the AMG mercedes models that I've sat in) plus better audio system (merdian (used to be B&W).
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Better performing car overall. How many cars can you take down the quarter mile in 12 seconds while having your back massaged? Most people who buy these cars cash or lease them could give a rats *** about maintenance costs. Reliability? If that's what's important to someone then they are buying the wrong car, go buy a Camry. If money were no issue I would hands down take the E63, for those on a budget the IS-F makes more sense.
For sure I would do the same. The M156 is an amazing engine and is also distinguished in that it is an in-house product of AMG. IMO it's a total travesty they went to FI and out-of-house engines for the current gen.
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From: DE
I looked into getting an E63 AMG for about 30 seconds
that was funny but true, i absolutely love the AMGs but i guess as everyone says as long under warranty you will be ok. So buy one with warranty have your fun and sell it before warranty expires
that was funny but true, i absolutely love the AMGs but i guess as everyone says as long under warranty you will be ok. So buy one with warranty have your fun and sell it before warranty expires
If you got the money, get one, and make sure it's certified with warranty if you're buying a pre-owned. Keep in mind,
Lexus IS F OEM Rotors = $300
E63 AMG Rotors = $800
Maintenance will kill you unless you got deep pockets.
BTW, a friend of mine is a tech for MB, and seeing E63s with 50k miles come to service and needing head gaskets replaced is a fairly common deal. I looked into getting an E63 AMG for about 30 seconds.
Lexus IS F OEM Rotors = $300
E63 AMG Rotors = $800
Maintenance will kill you unless you got deep pockets.
BTW, a friend of mine is a tech for MB, and seeing E63s with 50k miles come to service and needing head gaskets replaced is a fairly common deal. I looked into getting an E63 AMG for about 30 seconds.
If you are looking to purchase one, look at CarMax and inquire about their extended warranties... they're butt cheap and are exclusionary. The warranty will pay for itself in a year or two of owning the car. Those 6.3 V8 motors are known for their head bolt issues... I'm on MBWorld forums and I've seen it all over the place, but nonetheless they are great cars and sound amazing.
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