Acura TL SH AWD
Because its still too big, Even for my 6'4" frame. For something that is marketed to the sport sedan crowd. Slapping in a Lincoln towncar *** holder is a bit in the other direction.
End of the day. I would take the Acura over a Mopar car product hands down.
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Talk about apples to tampons. The 300s was designed two years after the TL for starters. The TL-SH is the FIRST year of AWD in a TL. Whereas the 300 line has had AWD since 05'
The 300S is my absolute least favorite car. Unless were talking about the SRT8 line (which is a whole different animal). That 300s felt way cheesier and cheap than the TL. The seats felt like they were designed for fat Americans only. They felt big and swimmy to me...and I'm a fat American. The AWD in the 300 felt like a sedan was bolted onto a Ram 1500 drive line. Dash board and controls looks like they were designed by Ricardo Montalban. I am in no way in support of the TL-SH at all, but to compare it to a Dodge? Really??. The TL-SH's AWD system as bulky as it is, feels light years ahead of that Mopar. The TL is still a FWD car... but the SH systems doesn't make it feel like one at all. As I said. The SH AWD is that cars ONLY saving grace.
The dodge to me felt like a group of Mopar engineers were all standing around and an exec rushed out to them screaming we need AWD now!! Then a few weeks later it was slapped together. Sort of early 60's Russian space program rigging. It works... For the sake of saying it works. I actually have video here on CL of me passing a AWD 300 up a hill in a snow storm in my RWD GS450h. That 300 was pitching all over the place.
As far as the interior to the 4Gen TL vs the interior to a 4 gen 2013 GS. You're right, no comparison. Lexus wins hands down. Now compare the TL to a 3GS since the TL-SH you're speaking of was designed in 08' as opposed to the 4GS designed 4 years after.
The 300S is my absolute least favorite car. Unless were talking about the SRT8 line (which is a whole different animal). That 300s felt way cheesier and cheap than the TL. The seats felt like they were designed for fat Americans only. They felt big and swimmy to me...and I'm a fat American. The AWD in the 300 felt like a sedan was bolted onto a Ram 1500 drive line. Dash board and controls looks like they were designed by Ricardo Montalban. I am in no way in support of the TL-SH at all, but to compare it to a Dodge? Really??. The TL-SH's AWD system as bulky as it is, feels light years ahead of that Mopar. The TL is still a FWD car... but the SH systems doesn't make it feel like one at all. As I said. The SH AWD is that cars ONLY saving grace.
The dodge to me felt like a group of Mopar engineers were all standing around and an exec rushed out to them screaming we need AWD now!! Then a few weeks later it was slapped together. Sort of early 60's Russian space program rigging. It works... For the sake of saying it works. I actually have video here on CL of me passing a AWD 300 up a hill in a snow storm in my RWD GS450h. That 300 was pitching all over the place.
As far as the interior to the 4Gen TL vs the interior to a 4 gen 2013 GS. You're right, no comparison. Lexus wins hands down. Now compare the TL to a 3GS since the TL-SH you're speaking of was designed in 08' as opposed to the 4GS designed 4 years after.
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BTW, congratulations on your wife's pregnancy.....sorry if I forgot to mention this before. We look forward to Junior's arrival.
And, speaking of Junior, I'm sure you checked out the TL's child-seat attachments and made sure they will easily fit your intended seat OK, didn't you? Most newer cars, by law, have central-attachment hardware built in above the rear seats.
Some Chrysler/Dodge minivans (and, I think, a few Volvo products) have nifty pull-down child seats actually built into the rear seats themselves......DOT-Approved. Just pull the seat open with a strap (like you would the regular center arm-rest), set Junior down in the middle of it, buckle up a few straps, and that's it.....you're good to go. But I don't think any TL models (or any Acuras) offer that option.
And, speaking of Junior, I'm sure you checked out the TL's child-seat attachments and made sure they will easily fit your intended seat OK, didn't you? Most newer cars, by law, have central-attachment hardware built in above the rear seats.
Some Chrysler/Dodge minivans (and, I think, a few Volvo products) have nifty pull-down child seats actually built into the rear seats themselves......DOT-Approved. Just pull the seat open with a strap (like you would the regular center arm-rest), set Junior down in the middle of it, buckle up a few straps, and that's it.....you're good to go. But I don't think any TL models (or any Acuras) offer that option.
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