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Old 04-21-12, 07:35 PM
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except for 2.4l with 6MT, it seems they didnt try at all.... but I am sure some people will find that 2.4l fun!
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Originally Posted by Och
This pos base price is higher than first gen TSX. Not too long ago you could have a loaded TL for 35K.

This thing needs to start at 18k and end at 25 to make any sort of sense.
don't be ridiculous, $18000? Civic costs around that
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With 26K base price, there are tons of better cars to have, I would even get a Hyundai before this.
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Old 04-22-12, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by pavelekPL
don't be ridiculous, $18000? Civic costs around that
And? This is a civic with some toys.
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The hybrid variant vexes me the most. While 39 MPG is respectable, 111 HP is not. This didn't work for Lexus, it won't work for Acura, especially with the ES300h on its way.
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Old 04-22-12, 12:23 PM
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the hybrid version reminds me of lexus hs. it isn't very impressive

all the complaints about pricing though, i think there's a lot of delusion here about what new cars cost and how the u.s. dollar's value has shrunk. many complainers typically own 10 year old cars and expect that prices haven't changed.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
the hybrid version reminds me of lexus hs. it isn't very impressive

all the complaints about pricing though, i think there's a lot of delusion here about what new cars cost and how the u.s. dollar's value has shrunk. many complainers typically own 10 year old cars and expect that prices haven't changed.
Can you name another brand with such drastic price increases as Acura, and no improvements?
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
the hybrid version reminds me of lexus hs. it isn't very impressive

all the complaints about pricing though, i think there's a lot of delusion here about what new cars cost and how the u.s. dollar's value has shrunk. many complainers typically own 10 year old cars and expect that prices haven't changed.
it is their version of CT200h basically... HS250h would be TSX in Hybrid form (larger with bigger engine).
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Originally Posted by Och
Can you name another brand with such drastic price increases as Acura, and no improvements?
how can this be a price increase, it's a new model?
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
how can this be a price increase, it's a new model?
I'm taking about price increases across the whole line up. Measly 5-6 years ago you could get a TSX for 26k or TL for 32k.

This thing starts at 26k and ends at 34.4... This is where fully loaded 2004-2008 TL used to end - and its a much superior car. Hell, a friend of mine bought a brand spanking new 2004 RL for 35k after a massive discount.

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Old 04-22-12, 07:38 PM
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I saw a loaded TL SHAWD for 51K!!!!!!!!! That is insane. Its competition for a G37 but it costs as much as a GS. Nuts!
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Old 04-22-12, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
the hybrid version reminds me of lexus hs. it isn't very impressive

all the complaints about pricing though, i think there's a lot of delusion here about what new cars cost and how the u.s. dollar's value has shrunk. many complainers typically own 10 year old cars and expect that prices haven't changed.
The HS is more advanced than any Acura. So if you are not impressed with the HS you must think Acura as a whole is terrible. That is logic right?

The HS has a real hybrid system that can drive the vehicle on electric power alone, gas alone or both. The ILX uses the old crappy IMA "assist" system.

The ILX has 111hp. Yes 111hp in a luxury car. That is literally less hp than the 114 Integra from 1986. n Then the ILX barely gets better MPG than the HS which has 187hp.

The HS starts at 37k, the ILX ends at 34k.

Apples to Oranges.

Acura stated the ILX is aimed basically at people that hate cars, don't know **** about cars but want a luxury badge b/c they think an Acura means something. This is maybe the worst luxury branded car debut since the Saabaru rebadge years ago. It is as Clarkson would say "biblically terrible".

Och's point is correct Acura has lost their rabbit *** mind with pricing. I don't care about inflation
2001-You got a LOADED 225hp TL for 27k. NAV TL made it 29k
2004-You got a LOADED 200hp TSX for 27k, NAV TSX made it 29k
2012-You get a base model, cloth, no HID, 150hp POS for 26k. Loaded its 30k

You can't get the 6 speed model with NAV? But you can get the same Civic with the same engine, same manul with Nav. What the hell?

A 111hp car is 34k loaded? Are they are crack?

So Acura no longer offers value, yet most of their cars are made in America to hedge against the yen? So why the hell is the content going down in American made cars, sold in America yet the price is going up? Wasn't the entire point of building the cars here to offer value and save on costs? At this rate just build the cars in Japan and have less margins.

This car is a complete joke and its hard to believe in 2012 this is what Acura thinks is a great product.
 
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You are the man, Mike!
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You are the man, Mike!
The freaking new Dodge Dart is better than this for crying out loud. Its an embarrassment to all luxury brands for this to be badged as a luxury car. 111hp "hybrid" that gets worse MPG than the new 200hp ES 300h

What a joke.



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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
The HS is more advanced than any Acura. So if you are not impressed with the HS you must think Acura as a whole is terrible. That is logic right?
haha, um, no. the HS definitely has an advanced drivetrain, and yes, definitely more sophisticated than the IMA. but there's more to a car (and an entire brand) than how complex its power source is. the HS would have been great if it wasnt so homely. i know your Mom has one and loves it, so objectivity might be a challenge here, but we both know despite it being "more advanced than any Acura" it's a sales flop. Acura's got serious problems, but they're still selling quite a lot of vehicles.

The ILX has 111hp. Yes 111hp in a luxury car.
the hybrid model gasoline engine gets that, yes. don't know what total power is with electric, but regardless, you know i'm not a big hybrid fan, and the normal gas cars get decent power (the 2.4 getting 201hp).

and for all your fuming about just 111hp on the gasoline engine in the ils hybrid, the CTh only gets 134hp combined gasoline and electric, so it's hardly much better if at all.

Acura stated the ILX is aimed basically at people that hate cars, don't know **** about cars but want a luxury badge b/c they think an Acura means something.
that's clearly ridiculous. the ils is an entry luxury car below the tsx. while acura doesn't mean anything to you, newsflash, lexus doesn't mean anything to a lot of people either.

Och's point is correct Acura has lost their rabbit *** mind with pricing. I don't care about inflation
2001-You got a LOADED 225hp TL for 27k. NAV TL made it 29k
2004-You got a LOADED 200hp TSX for 27k, NAV TSX made it 29k
2012-You get a base model, cloth, no HID, 150hp POS for 26k. Loaded its 30k
you're comparing today's prices with 11 and 8 years ago? lol

You can't get the 6 speed model with NAV? But you can get the same Civic with the same engine, same manul with Nav. What the hell?
well hey, at least you can GET a stick, but again newsflash, just like lexus, there's option constraints which won't please some people.

to get heated seats on the CTh you have to buy the $2600 premium option.

This car is a complete joke and its hard to believe in 2012 this is what Acura thinks is a great product.
would expect nothing less from you, even if the car could fly and had 1000hp for $15k.
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