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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 02:42 PM
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I'm amazed I haven't heard about any recall issues with the C7....I just figured with a 99% new car there would be some issues.
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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 03:55 PM
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I'm amazed I haven't heard about any recall issues with the C7....I just figured with a 99% new car there would be some issues.
With something that's much more lower volume, I believe quality control is easier to maintain on a Vette vs a Malibu. My assumption anyway
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Old Nov 29, 2013 | 07:50 PM
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With something that's much more lower volume, I believe quality control is easier to maintain on a Vette vs a Malibu. My assumption anyway
Head to Corvette forums, you will see a lot of owners have paint and navigation problems. They are just minor issue though, but GM should fix those issue immediately.
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Head to Corvette forums, you will see a lot of owners have paint and navigation problems. They are just minor issue though, but GM should fix those issue immediately.
I hate to say this but based on experience I really don't think GM will do anything to fix any of the problems that come up on the C7
if you look at the corvette forums and read for about a day and a half you will find that the previous C6 corvette Z06 with the LS7 engine has been having some major problems.
the short of it is the valve guides wear extremely quickly and as a result about 30 or so owners from the corvette forum with totally stock engines have had an exhaust valve drop and cause catastrophic engine failure.

the cars come with a 5 year 100k warranty on the drivetrain but the problem is so many people who own vettes keep them in the garage and rarely put many miles on them so most of the affected engines never get enough miles on them to experience this issue before the 5 years is up.

gm admitted on the forum they had a manufacture defect in the way the valve guides were machined, but said only 2008-early production 2012 vehicles were affected.
the only reason they did this was to cover up the fact this issue has been going on since the 2006 model year and to deny those out of the warranty period any help if their engine blows up.

they said it only affected about 3% of the entire production years. the fact is several of us corvette owners made use of a tool one of the members made who is a machinist and also a set of instructions on how to look for wear against the rocker to stem contact point. we also used a valve spring compressor tool to check for valve guide wear and play of the valve stem within the guide (wiggle test) in at least 50% of the cars tested the valves would actually wiggle in the guides proving that that engine will eventually suffer a catastrophic engine failure.
GM is happy to replace the heads but only if the service department can determine the valves are out of spec.
so the smart owners have done the test and once verified taken their cars in to be officially checked and heads replaced under warranty.
meanwhile folks who don't frequent the forums and don't know of this issue are literally sitting on a ticking time bomb.
GM has turned a blind eye to the issue and denying there is any problem with easily over 50,000 vehicles that need to have the heads replaced with CORRECTLY machined guides.
as you might imagine this would be a huge expense! so GM has taken the position to ignore the problem in hopes that they will only have to replace blown engines that fall under warranty rather than being proactive and fixing the problem before a customer looses their engine.
the longer they wait the less engines they will actually have to repair or replace as the owners warranties expire.
also many corvette owners like to modify their engines, which of course voids the warranty early. (another win for GM)

several of the LS9 engines found in the ZR-1 corvettes are also showing signs of excessive valve guide wear, but they are not as common as the LS7

anyway, this is one of the reasons i sold my 2012 centennial edition Z06. because i don't want to be part of it anymore. the whole issue just sickens me and makes me want to puke when i think about it.

in contrast, Lexus replaced valve springs on how many IS and GS 350 vehicles? and now i hear they have to go back in and replace the cam gear for the VVTI system.
why can't GM stand up and take care of the customer? why won't they make it right? because i think all GM cares about is selling more junk and getting paid. it's the same attitude that landed them in bankruptcy court and looking for a handout from the government while they flew in to ask for that money in their corporate jets!

sorry for the rant, but if you think GM will do anything for their customers about a stinking navigation system your dead wrong! They won't even address an issue that will cost owners $17,000 for a new engine because of a manufacturing error.
furthermore they put the same piece of garbage navigation system in my 2012 Z06 that was still used up till 2013 and had been used unchanged since 2005 so for 8 YEARS they neglected to do anything about the most complained about part of the car which was the crappy stereo.

in 2012 they added tweeters on the dash and a better subwoofer in the doors and my 2012 was much improved over the 2008 that i had previously, but the navigation was so bad and totally worthless most owners bought a Garmin to stick to the windshield. (i replaced mine with a ken wood)

not only could you not program anything while the car was in motion but you couldn't even locate a restaurant along your route with any degree of accuracy.
the rear speakers are wired in MONO despite having been sent a stereo signal! (who's idea that was ill never understand)
given the tract record of the corvette it will be another 8 years before you see a better radio installed.

don't get me wrong i loved my corvette. but i came back to lexus for practicality reasons. but i think it will be a few years of watching from the sidelines before i decide to buy another corvette.
they are a very cool and amazing car and i think GM attracts buyers because like harley davidson owners they have a lot of loyal customers who buy the car because of what it is and what it represents.
i never thought i would sell mine honestly. but the more i think about it having sold mine i know it was the right decision.

as lexus owners we don't realize how good we have it. toyota/lexus lives off it's reputation for engineering and reliability as do many Japanese manufacturers. They have to!
because some people simply won't buy anything but american because they think they are doing something to support their local autoworker. those same americans buy american cars that are worthless after 100k miles and they must really enjoy visits to the dealership for repairs.

But i think the smart people realize the imports are where the quality is and where the value is. and i think Lexus has proven to me over and over they really care about the product they build.
they care about the image they leave for their customers and know that without it they wouldn't get repeat business.

Heck 1 Prius made headlines about the braking system and all hell broke loose! one lexus vehicle had a fatality because some dumbAS& stuck a weather mat under the gas pedal and the driver was unable to stop the car. it made huge headlines! and as a result i had to take my tacoma in to have them hack off the bottom of my gas pedal (totally unnecessarily) as a result of it.

any other manufacturer would rather deal with the problems publicly and fix it regardless of the cost involved.
GM will spend nothing and sweep their problems under the carpet.

end of rant!
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bass Mech
I hate to say this but based on experience I really don't think GM will do anything to fix any of the problems that come up on the C7
if you look at the corvette forums and read for about a day and a half you will find that the previous C6 corvette Z06 with the LS7 engine has been having some major problems.
the short of it is the valve guides wear extremely quickly and as a result about 30 or so owners from the corvette forum with totally stock engines have had an exhaust valve drop and cause catastrophic engine failure.

the cars come with a 5 year 100k warranty on the drivetrain but the problem is so many people who own vettes keep them in the garage and rarely put many miles on them so most of the affected engines never get enough miles on them to experience this issue before the 5 years is up.

gm admitted on the forum they had a manufacture defect in the way the valve guides were machined, but said only 2008-early production 2012 vehicles were affected.
the only reason they did this was to cover up the fact this issue has been going on since the 2006 model year and to deny those out of the warranty period any help if their engine blows up.

they said it only affected about 3% of the entire production years. the fact is several of us corvette owners made use of a tool one of the members made who is a machinist and also a set of instructions on how to look for wear against the rocker to stem contact point. we also used a valve spring compressor tool to check for valve guide wear and play of the valve stem within the guide (wiggle test) in at least 50% of the cars tested the valves would actually wiggle in the guides proving that that engine will eventually suffer a catastrophic engine failure.
GM is happy to replace the heads but only if the service department can determine the valves are out of spec.
so the smart owners have done the test and once verified taken their cars in to be officially checked and heads replaced under warranty.
meanwhile folks who don't frequent the forums and don't know of this issue are literally sitting on a ticking time bomb.
GM has turned a blind eye to the issue and denying there is any problem with easily over 50,000 vehicles that need to have the heads replaced with CORRECTLY machined guides.
as you might imagine this would be a huge expense! so GM has taken the position to ignore the problem in hopes that they will only have to replace blown engines that fall under warranty rather than being proactive and fixing the problem before a customer looses their engine.
the longer they wait the less engines they will actually have to repair or replace as the owners warranties expire.
also many corvette owners like to modify their engines, which of course voids the warranty early. (another win for GM)

several of the LS9 engines found in the ZR-1 corvettes are also showing signs of excessive valve guide wear, but they are not as common as the LS7

anyway, this is one of the reasons i sold my 2012 centennial edition Z06. because i don't want to be part of it anymore. the whole issue just sickens me and makes me want to puke when i think about it.

in contrast, Lexus replaced valve springs on how many IS and GS 350 vehicles? and now i hear they have to go back in and replace the cam gear for the VVTI system.
why can't GM stand up and take care of the customer? why won't they make it right? because i think all GM cares about is selling more junk and getting paid. it's the same attitude that landed them in bankruptcy court and looking for a handout from the government while they flew in to ask for that money in their corporate jets!

sorry for the rant, but if you think GM will do anything for their customers about a stinking navigation system your dead wrong! They won't even address an issue that will cost owners $17,000 for a new engine because of a manufacturing error.
furthermore they put the same piece of garbage navigation system in my 2012 Z06 that was still used up till 2013 and had been used unchanged since 2005 so for 8 YEARS they neglected to do anything about the most complained about part of the car which was the crappy stereo.

in 2012 they added tweeters on the dash and a better subwoofer in the doors and my 2012 was much improved over the 2008 that i had previously, but the navigation was so bad and totally worthless most owners bought a Garmin to stick to the windshield. (i replaced mine with a ken wood)

not only could you not program anything while the car was in motion but you couldn't even locate a restaurant along your route with any degree of accuracy.
the rear speakers are wired in MONO despite having been sent a stereo signal! (who's idea that was ill never understand)
given the tract record of the corvette it will be another 8 years before you see a better radio installed.

don't get me wrong i loved my corvette. but i came back to lexus for practicality reasons. but i think it will be a few years of watching from the sidelines before i decide to buy another corvette.
they are a very cool and amazing car and i think GM attracts buyers because like harley davidson owners they have a lot of loyal customers who buy the car because of what it is and what it represents.
i never thought i would sell mine honestly. but the more i think about it having sold mine i know it was the right decision.

as lexus owners we don't realize how good we have it. toyota/lexus lives off it's reputation for engineering and reliability as do many Japanese manufacturers. They have to!
because some people simply won't buy anything but american because they think they are doing something to support their local autoworker. those same americans buy american cars that are worthless after 100k miles and they must really enjoy visits to the dealership for repairs.

But i think the smart people realize the imports are where the quality is and where the value is. and i think Lexus has proven to me over and over they really care about the product they build.
they care about the image they leave for their customers and know that without it they wouldn't get repeat business.

Heck 1 Prius made headlines about the braking system and all hell broke loose! one lexus vehicle had a fatality because some dumbAS& stuck a weather mat under the gas pedal and the driver was unable to stop the car. it made huge headlines! and as a result i had to take my tacoma in to have them hack off the bottom of my gas pedal (totally unnecessarily) as a result of it.

any other manufacturer would rather deal with the problems publicly and fix it regardless of the cost involved.
GM will spend nothing and sweep their problems under the carpet.

end of rant!
I agree with how Lexus and Toyota is doing their business. I seriously Doubt the C7 can be produced for that much Quality, and at that price.

Though, if GM has any Fatalities, they would still have to deal with the Feds....the same way Toyota did. Anyways, Toyota is way better in customer services
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Old Nov 30, 2013 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bass Mech
I hate to say this but based on experience I really don't think GM will do anything to fix any of the problems that come up on the C7
if you look at the corvette forums and read for about a day and a half you will find that the previous C6 corvette Z06 with the LS7 engine has been having some major problems.
the short of it is the valve guides wear extremely quickly and as a result about 30 or so owners from the corvette forum with totally stock engines have had an exhaust valve drop and cause catastrophic engine failure.

the cars come with a 5 year 100k warranty on the drivetrain but the problem is so many people who own vettes keep them in the garage and rarely put many miles on them so most of the affected engines never get enough miles on them to experience this issue before the 5 years is up.

gm admitted on the forum they had a manufacture defect in the way the valve guides were machined, but said only 2008-early production 2012 vehicles were affected.
the only reason they did this was to cover up the fact this issue has been going on since the 2006 model year and to deny those out of the warranty period any help if their engine blows up.

they said it only affected about 3% of the entire production years. the fact is several of us corvette owners made use of a tool one of the members made who is a machinist and also a set of instructions on how to look for wear against the rocker to stem contact point. we also used a valve spring compressor tool to check for valve guide wear and play of the valve stem within the guide (wiggle test) in at least 50% of the cars tested the valves would actually wiggle in the guides proving that that engine will eventually suffer a catastrophic engine failure.
GM is happy to replace the heads but only if the service department can determine the valves are out of spec.
so the smart owners have done the test and once verified taken their cars in to be officially checked and heads replaced under warranty.
meanwhile folks who don't frequent the forums and don't know of this issue are literally sitting on a ticking time bomb.
GM has turned a blind eye to the issue and denying there is any problem with easily over 50,000 vehicles that need to have the heads replaced with CORRECTLY machined guides.
as you might imagine this would be a huge expense! so GM has taken the position to ignore the problem in hopes that they will only have to replace blown engines that fall under warranty rather than being proactive and fixing the problem before a customer looses their engine.
the longer they wait the less engines they will actually have to repair or replace as the owners warranties expire.
also many corvette owners like to modify their engines, which of course voids the warranty early. (another win for GM)

several of the LS9 engines found in the ZR-1 corvettes are also showing signs of excessive valve guide wear, but they are not as common as the LS7

anyway, this is one of the reasons i sold my 2012 centennial edition Z06. because i don't want to be part of it anymore. the whole issue just sickens me and makes me want to puke when i think about it.

in contrast, Lexus replaced valve springs on how many IS and GS 350 vehicles? and now i hear they have to go back in and replace the cam gear for the VVTI system.
why can't GM stand up and take care of the customer? why won't they make it right? because i think all GM cares about is selling more junk and getting paid. it's the same attitude that landed them in bankruptcy court and looking for a handout from the government while they flew in to ask for that money in their corporate jets!

sorry for the rant, but if you think GM will do anything for their customers about a stinking navigation system your dead wrong! They won't even address an issue that will cost owners $17,000 for a new engine because of a manufacturing error.
furthermore they put the same piece of garbage navigation system in my 2012 Z06 that was still used up till 2013 and had been used unchanged since 2005 so for 8 YEARS they neglected to do anything about the most complained about part of the car which was the crappy stereo.

in 2012 they added tweeters on the dash and a better subwoofer in the doors and my 2012 was much improved over the 2008 that i had previously, but the navigation was so bad and totally worthless most owners bought a Garmin to stick to the windshield. (i replaced mine with a ken wood)

not only could you not program anything while the car was in motion but you couldn't even locate a restaurant along your route with any degree of accuracy.
the rear speakers are wired in MONO despite having been sent a stereo signal! (who's idea that was ill never understand)
given the tract record of the corvette it will be another 8 years before you see a better radio installed.

don't get me wrong i loved my corvette. but i came back to lexus for practicality reasons. but i think it will be a few years of watching from the sidelines before i decide to buy another corvette.
they are a very cool and amazing car and i think GM attracts buyers because like harley davidson owners they have a lot of loyal customers who buy the car because of what it is and what it represents.
i never thought i would sell mine honestly. but the more i think about it having sold mine i know it was the right decision.

as lexus owners we don't realize how good we have it. toyota/lexus lives off it's reputation for engineering and reliability as do many Japanese manufacturers. They have to!
because some people simply won't buy anything but american because they think they are doing something to support their local autoworker. those same americans buy american cars that are worthless after 100k miles and they must really enjoy visits to the dealership for repairs.

But i think the smart people realize the imports are where the quality is and where the value is. and i think Lexus has proven to me over and over they really care about the product they build.
they care about the image they leave for their customers and know that without it they wouldn't get repeat business.

Heck 1 Prius made headlines about the braking system and all hell broke loose! one lexus vehicle had a fatality because some dumbAS& stuck a weather mat under the gas pedal and the driver was unable to stop the car. it made huge headlines! and as a result i had to take my tacoma in to have them hack off the bottom of my gas pedal (totally unnecessarily) as a result of it.

any other manufacturer would rather deal with the problems publicly and fix it regardless of the cost involved.
GM will spend nothing and sweep their problems under the carpet.

end of rant!
I had a '99 Grand Am. That model generation was notorious for failure of the power window assembly, because the glass was held by poorly designed plastic clips. $0.50 clips, but $300 to replace the entire assembly if they broke.

It was so bad, GM actually designed a totally new replacement system, which they then sold at $350, rather than just fixing the faulty **** they sold in the first place.

Never buying another GM product.
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General Motors Co. said Wednesday it will reveal its new 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 in January during the 2014 North American International Auto Show in Detroit.

The Detroit automaker isn’t providing many details on the new Corvette model, but provided a teaser shot of a yellow Z06 showing part of the driver’s side door and front wheel area. The company said the new Corvette Z06 will be the “most track-capable Corvette ever designed to deliver supercar levels of performance through unique powertrain, chassis and aerodynamic features.”

Production of the 2015 Corvette Z06 will begin in late 2014, GM said.

The 2013 Corvette Z06 starts at $75,600, plus destination charge, and features a hand-built 7-liter V-8 engine that generates 505 horsepower and 470 foot-pounds of torque. The vehicle is fast, too, zooming from zero to 60 miles per hour in 3.7 seconds.

The Corvette Z06 will join a slate of new Chevrolet performance vehicles including the 2014 Corvette Stingray and the 2014 Stingray convertible that go on sale this month, the 2014 Chevrolet SS sedan that recently went on sale, and the yet to come 2014 Camaro Z/28. GM says the Camaro Z/28 is its most track-capable Camaro and should be available in the second quarter next year.

“For 2014 we are going to offer enthusiasts more choices than ever before,” Alan Batey, senior vice-president of Global Chevrolet, said in a statement. “No other manufacturer will be able to match the breath of performance cars from Chevrolet.”
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 11:25 AM
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 11:26 AM
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Old Dec 6, 2013 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexuslvr91
Incredible!
Sexy!!! If I had the money, I wouldn't be able to resist
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been meaning to upload this

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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 04:30 AM
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Wow!...that 40-80 is something....also....what the heck is with that 60-100....So freaking fast
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 11:28 AM
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automatics only?

thanks for posting!
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Old Dec 7, 2013 | 03:51 PM
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yea autos only at the place. I had driven the GTR before the C7, GTR felt like cheating lol with the amount of grip it has. Took more work to drive the C7 better. I got a best lap of 57.81s on the GTR and on the C7 I got 1:00.83
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Really excited about Z06, it's gonna be a beast.
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