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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mordecai
Bwahahaha, I'm sorry but what the hell? Veloster has an exotic look? As in like supercars? And why did you bring up the LFA? The LFA is boring? It looks like any Japanese sporty car? So you would rather have a 23k Veloster than an LFA? I have so many questions as to the logic behind this post...

Edit: I better stop visiting Hyundai threads... they are filled with some of the dumbest posts I've ever read.
Laugh it up. It's all fun. But still, i am serious.
Not that I'm trying to troll, but really really honestly speaking, the LF-A does not give exotic look. The build-quality and engineering is certainly is exotic, or top-notch, but that doesn't necessarily make the "appearance" of the vehicle exotic to some people... or many people (myself included). The side and rear end looks really boring.

Veloster has that exotic look. You need to check it out in person, and also see for yourself one on the road... It looks like an exotic car from the future, year 2052. The impression is about as good as the Koenigsegg CCX.


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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 05:52 AM
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or you can get real sports car - FR-S, which is faster, handles gazillion times better and probably will get much better mpg in real life, than Hyundai turbo's that never accomplish EPA.
If you are referring to styling, the FR-S does look incredibly ugly. The front end looks very cheap econobox... The side and rear looks too plain and boring. Nothing stands out. I would avoid getting that car at all costs.

Now if you are referring strictly the performance, for that price the car is slow... I am guessing the price with some options will be well over $27k. That's overpriced. You can get a Mazdaspeed 3 with way more power. It will slaughter the FR-S from highway pulls. The review did mention low center of gravity on the FR-S, but did not find the slalom performance as well as laptimes at the road course circuits. MS3 has made a lot of establishments for the track times, which means not only faster in the straights, but faster at the tracks. It has more history. For performance, it wouldn't make sense for me to go with FR-S. I would get the MS3.

2013 Scion FR-S - ESTIMATED BASE PRICE: $25,000

ENGINE TYPE: DOHC 16-valve flat-4, aluminum block and heads, port and direct fuel injection

Displacement: 122 cu in, 1998 cc
Power: 200 hp @ 7000 rpm
Torque: 151 lb-ft @ 6600 rpm

TRANSMISSIONS: 6-speed manual, 6-speed automatic with manual shifting mode

DIMENSIONS:
Wheelbase: 101.2 in
Length: 166.7 in
Width: 69.9 in Height: 51.2 in
Curb weight: 2800–2900 lb

PERFORMANCE (C/D EST):
Zero to 60 mph: 6.0–6.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 15.5–15.7 sec
Top speed: 143 mph

PROJECTED FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 19/27
The torque on the FR-S is weak. MS3 has close to double that amount it's embarrassing.

I just can't see how FR-S has better fuel economy than the "Turbo" version Veloster. FR-S at 27 MPG highway. Turbo Veloster at 38 MPG highway. That's whopping 11 MPG difference.

And C&D generally have better 0-60 numbers on most cars. Expect good 6.5 sec 0-60 from other reviewers.


And it looks like a sports car unlike Veloster, which looks like they have stolen Renault Megane coupe.
Still looks very boring for a sportscar.... the FR-S that is. The styling looks really boring and doesn't stand out, at all.


You can also get Ford Focus ST - which is more usable, for the same price and probably faster.
It also doesnt have weird transmissions or lifeless steering.
The Turbo Veloster has the upgraded suspension and steering. Didn't you read the article in the link? They were "impressed" with how well it handled in the curves in the mountain side.


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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 05:54 AM
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or handling... lol.

nothing matters i guess.
There's more to it than handling.

lol?



Here's more about the FR-S...
Compared with modern sports cars, the FR-S’s 215/45-17 tires are skinny. There isn’t a huge amount of grip, but what’s there breaks away gradually. We asked Tada about the tires, and he told us, “They are Prius tires.” You might think he’s joking, but he’s not. The Michelin Primacy HP tires are identical to those in the Prius’s optional Plus Performance package, right down to the compound and construction. Although they don’t provide the stickiness we’ve come to expect from modern sport machinery, the relative slipperiness gives the FR-S a lively, playful feel.
That's EMBARRASSING... It uses PRIUS tires.... and they did admit it does not have good grip due to skinny tires. This ain't no sportscar.... it's "sporty" "econobox", and has very boring design.

It says due to slipperiness it gives you lively, playful feel??? not good for laptimes.


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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mordecai

Edit: I better stop visiting Hyundai threads... they are filled with some of the dumbest posts I've ever read.
/thread. This and the GS/sonata thread are recent examples of horrific

Originally Posted by robloc93
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by meowCat
There's more to it than handling.

lol?



Here's more about the FR-S...

That's EMBARRASSING... It uses PRIUS tires.... and they did admit it does not have good grip due to skinny tires. This ain't no sportscar.... it's "sporty" "econobox", and has very boring design.

It says due to slipperiness it gives you lively, playful feel??? not good for laptimes.

are you serious or are you joking? It reads as if you are trying to be funny.

If you are serious, wow.
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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 08:13 AM
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are you serious or are you joking? It reads as if you are trying to be funny.

If you are serious, wow.
Don't know what part you think I'm trying to be funny, but seriously, I find FR-S look extremely boring and looks cheap. The front is just terrible.



If you are talking performance, skinny tires can't give you good grip. You said "sportscar".... not enough grip for a sportscar, especially at the tracks. Is it fun to drive? I'm sure. That's about it, the driving fun side of it. If I get out of the car and look at the exterior.... Oh my God..... looks ugly. I would walk over to the Turbo Veloster and go emmm~~~~ Looks incredible. And the fuel economy there is no comparison. It is better by 11 MPG and has about as good handling with descent power. The power is actually pretty damn good for a 38 MPG sporty car. FR-S is 27 MPG. That is when you use the word "horrific".


btw, that FR-S side looks like a copycat of Ferrari 550 Maranello. Hyundai uses their own unique design but the Toyota and Scion are still copying other manufacturers designs...


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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by meowCat
I saw a standard yellow Veloster on the interstate. He was entering from the ramp. I WOW'ed the hell out. I thought it was an exotic car, seriously. Couldn't believe it was a Hyundai
The Veloster Turbo (and the standard Veloster) does look better than the Lexus LF-A, especially from mid to rear. Veloster gives more "exotic" look whereas the LF-A looks just another boring Japanese sporty car. The styling is way too boring and does not stand out. Definitely not worth $400k. Veloster only costs 23k.
Laugh it up. It's all fun. But still, i am serious.
Not that I'm trying to troll, but really really honestly speaking, the LF-A does not give exotic look. The build-quality and engineering is certainly is exotic, or top-notch, but that doesn't necessarily make the "appearance" of the vehicle exotic to some people... or many people (myself included). The side and rear end looks really boring.
Veloster has that exotic look. You need to check it out in person, and also see for yourself one on the road... It looks like an exotic car from the future, year 2052. The impression is about as good as the Koenigsegg CCX.
Originally Posted by meowCat
If you are referring to styling, the FR-S does look incredibly ugly. The front end looks very cheap econobox... The side and rear looks too plain and boring. Nothing stands out. I would avoid getting that car at all costs.
Originally Posted by meowCat
Don't know what part you think I'm trying to be funny, but seriously, I find FR-S look extremely boring and looks cheap. The front is just terrible.

If you are talking performance, skinny tires can't give you good grip. You said "sportscar".... not enough grip for a sportscar, especially at the tracks. Is it fun to drive? I'm sure. That's about it, the driving fun side of it. If I get out of the car and look at the exterior.... Oh my God..... looks ugly. I would walk over to the Turbo Veloster and go emmm~~~~ Looks incredible. And the fuel economy there is no comparison. It is better by 11 MPG and has about as good handling with descent power. The power is actually pretty damn good for a 38 MPG sporty car. FR-S is 27 MPG. That is when you use the word "horrific".


btw, that FR-S side looks like a copycat of Ferrari 550 Maranello. Hyundai uses their own unique design but the Toyota and Scion are still copying other manufacturers designs...

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Old Jun 29, 2012 | 08:56 AM
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ok, enough about the fr-s, which doesn't compete with the veloster, at all.
the fr-s is more like a cheap lotus elite. nice indeed though!
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