First Drive: 2013 Ford Taurus SHO
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From: CA
and this is how concept like this
turns to this
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and i totally saw it gonna happen and predicted the front gonna look like old accord..
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...s-to-come.html
turns to this
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and i totally saw it gonna happen and predicted the front gonna look like old accord..
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...s-to-come.html
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what a craptastic review. they kept calling it a bruiser and even a sports barge. their condescension was impressive. 
while i hate those wheels, and yeah it's no 5 series or GS, the car is otherwise very impressive. they say it's small inside yet they say it's bigger inside than 5 series or e-class.
also, they didn't mention the trunk on it, which is cavernous. oh and this is how you do AWD without giant front rim wheel gap. 
not sure how that interior pic looks so bad. yes the interior is not wood and could be more upscale, but a lot of the center console is closable storage covers:
just wondering, what things were falling off and loose?
while i hate those wheels, and yeah it's no 5 series or GS, the car is otherwise very impressive. they say it's small inside yet they say it's bigger inside than 5 series or e-class.
also, they didn't mention the trunk on it, which is cavernous. oh and this is how you do AWD without giant front rim wheel gap. not sure how that interior pic looks so bad. yes the interior is not wood and could be more upscale, but a lot of the center console is closable storage covers:
just wondering, what things were falling off and loose?
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Joined: Oct 2008
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From: California
^^^ to add to that
This car is certainly NOT average 
Average price of new car sales transaction hits $30,748, an all-time record
If you've looked into purchasing a new car recently, we likely don't need to tell you prices are plenty lofty. According to TrueCar.com's data, the average selling price of a new car sold here in the U.S. last month was $30,748, marking an all-time record (last year's figure was just $28,771). While buyers are currently looking toward smaller, less expensive and more fuel-efficient models, overall vehicle sales have jumped ahead of the rest of the slowly recovering economy. In addition, manufacturers are keeping production more in line with demand, resulting in significantly scaled-back incentives.
As a result, the average transaction price has inched skyward even in the face of an uncertain economy and escalating fuel prices. In addition, small cars now carry significantly more content than before and prices to match, and crossovers just keep getting more and more popular. Buyers have proven none too wary of optioning B and C-segment vehicles well above MSRPs typically seen on mid-sized fare, and used car fleets are thin, raising prices and pushing buyers toward new cars instead. According to CNW Marketing, consumers now routinely option a vehicle to within 86 percent of the fully loaded cost.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/11/a...l-time-record/
As a result, the average transaction price has inched skyward even in the face of an uncertain economy and escalating fuel prices. In addition, small cars now carry significantly more content than before and prices to match, and crossovers just keep getting more and more popular. Buyers have proven none too wary of optioning B and C-segment vehicles well above MSRPs typically seen on mid-sized fare, and used car fleets are thin, raising prices and pushing buyers toward new cars instead. According to CNW Marketing, consumers now routinely option a vehicle to within 86 percent of the fully loaded cost.
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/11/a...l-time-record/
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Joined: Oct 2002
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From: The Woodlands, TX
its NOT in the same class as a 5-series.....make it a Lincoln MKF if that's what they're shooting for.
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I agree the SHO vs. ES350 are different ballparks. One is a sport sedan, the other isn't.
OTOH, the Taurus AWD both regular and SHO are no longer Recommended by Consumer Reports due to poor reliability.
The ES350 is the highest rated car in their "Upscale Cars" category for Predicted Reliability".
OTOH, the Taurus AWD both regular and SHO are no longer Recommended by Consumer Reports due to poor reliability.
The ES350 is the highest rated car in their "Upscale Cars" category for Predicted Reliability".