2013 Lincoln MKZ Leaked
10-16-12, 04:52 PM
#47
Lexus Fanatic
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10-16-12, 05:00 PM
#48
If the MKZ looks as good in person as the Fusion, this will be one beautiful car! On their web site, I priced a V-6 with NAV and sunroof at about $41K which puts it close to the ES350 with similar equipment. In addition to the push button gear selector, the MKZ has a couple of unique technology features: drive select and active noise cancellation.
I personally think this is a good start for Lincoln's entry level car. Now they need a flagship!
Steve
I personally think this is a good start for Lincoln's entry level car. Now they need a flagship!
Steve
10-16-12, 05:02 PM
#49
10-17-12, 11:49 PM
#53
The EPA sometimes gives higher-than-actual numbers for American vehicles. For instance, the GMC Terrain was rated (and heavily advertised) at 33MPG highway, which is highly improbable for a 2-ton conventional SUV, even with a four cylinder engine. Actual numbers tested by independent sources were much lower.
Styling wise, I think they did a nice job on both the interior and exterior.
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Styling wise, I think they did a nice job on both the interior and exterior.
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Last edited by Chocolate; 10-17-12 at 11:56 PM.
10-19-12, 04:19 PM
#54
Lexus Test Driver
Had a chance to test drive the new MKZ hybrid at car show event in LI last weekend.
Observations:
- Attractive exterior and interior styling, although may be too much for conservative buyers. I personally like it, especially in Silver.
- Interior is VERY CHEAP, hard plastics everywhere around the dash....The new ES is 100000x better.
- Hybrid system is NOT smooth at all and also makes loud noise. Not something you want in a luxury car.
- Lack of standard shifter is gimmicky IMO.
- I got $20 VISA CARD as a thank you,, which was a pleasant surprise
The crazy part is they had a professional video playing the whole time comparing this car to the Audi A6 and Lexus GS.......What the hell are Lincoln execs smoking???
How do you not know ur target market?
Their competition should be Acura RL, Buick Lacrosse, and the Lexus ES maybe a stretch even.
I predict this to be another SALES FAILURE!
Observations:
- Attractive exterior and interior styling, although may be too much for conservative buyers. I personally like it, especially in Silver.
- Interior is VERY CHEAP, hard plastics everywhere around the dash....The new ES is 100000x better.
- Hybrid system is NOT smooth at all and also makes loud noise. Not something you want in a luxury car.
- Lack of standard shifter is gimmicky IMO.
- I got $20 VISA CARD as a thank you,, which was a pleasant surprise
The crazy part is they had a professional video playing the whole time comparing this car to the Audi A6 and Lexus GS.......What the hell are Lincoln execs smoking???
How do you not know ur target market?Their competition should be Acura RL, Buick Lacrosse, and the Lexus ES maybe a stretch even.
I predict this to be another SALES FAILURE!
10-19-12, 04:27 PM
#55
Had a chance to test drive the new MKZ hybrid at car show event in LI last weekend.
Observations:
- Attractive exterior and interior styling, although may be too much for conservative buyers. I personally like it, especially in Silver.
- Interior is VERY CHEAP, hard plastics everywhere around the dash....The new ES is 100000x better.
- Hybrid system is NOT smooth at all and also makes loud noise. Not something you want in a luxury car.
- Lack of standard shifter is gimmicky IMO.
- I got $20 VISA CARD as a thank you,, which was a pleasant surprise
The crazy part is they had a professional video playing the whole time comparing this car to the Audi A6 and Lexus GS.......What the hell are Lincoln execs smoking??? How do you not know ur target market?
Their competition should be Acura RL, Buick Lacrosse, and the Lexus ES maybe a stretch even.
I predict this to be another SALES FAILURE!
Observations:
- Attractive exterior and interior styling, although may be too much for conservative buyers. I personally like it, especially in Silver.
- Interior is VERY CHEAP, hard plastics everywhere around the dash....The new ES is 100000x better.
- Hybrid system is NOT smooth at all and also makes loud noise. Not something you want in a luxury car.
- Lack of standard shifter is gimmicky IMO.
- I got $20 VISA CARD as a thank you,, which was a pleasant surprise
The crazy part is they had a professional video playing the whole time comparing this car to the Audi A6 and Lexus GS.......What the hell are Lincoln execs smoking???
How do you not know ur target market?Their competition should be Acura RL, Buick Lacrosse, and the Lexus ES maybe a stretch even.
I predict this to be another SALES FAILURE!
There reasoning was some of the dumbest I've ever heard. The Cadillac has some of the lowest lease rates, and the C-Class is one of the best entry level luxury sales vehicles. Something the ES has been in the past. Complete and utter BS. These cars are apples and oranges. Lexus and their marketing team are smoking something themselves... Smh. Terrible launch event
10-19-12, 05:53 PM
#56
Had a chance to test drive the new MKZ hybrid at car show event in LI last weekend.
Observations:
- Attractive exterior and interior styling, although may be too much for conservative buyers. I personally like it, especially in Silver.
- Interior is VERY CHEAP, hard plastics everywhere around the dash....The new ES is 100000x better.
- Hybrid system is NOT smooth at all and also makes loud noise. Not something you want in a luxury car.
- Lack of standard shifter is gimmicky IMO.
- I got $20 VISA CARD as a thank you,, which was a pleasant surprise
The crazy part is they had a professional video playing the whole time comparing this car to the Audi A6 and Lexus GS.......What the hell are Lincoln execs smoking??? How do you not know ur target market?
Their competition should be Acura RL, Buick Lacrosse, and the Lexus ES maybe a stretch even.
I predict this to be another SALES FAILURE!
Observations:
- Attractive exterior and interior styling, although may be too much for conservative buyers. I personally like it, especially in Silver.
- Interior is VERY CHEAP, hard plastics everywhere around the dash....The new ES is 100000x better.
- Hybrid system is NOT smooth at all and also makes loud noise. Not something you want in a luxury car.
- Lack of standard shifter is gimmicky IMO.
- I got $20 VISA CARD as a thank you,, which was a pleasant surprise
The crazy part is they had a professional video playing the whole time comparing this car to the Audi A6 and Lexus GS.......What the hell are Lincoln execs smoking???
How do you not know ur target market?Their competition should be Acura RL, Buick Lacrosse, and the Lexus ES maybe a stretch even.
I predict this to be another SALES FAILURE!
What was Lexus thinking when they compared the ES to the CTS and C-Class?????? It's competition is the Lacrosse, TL, and MKZ.
There reasoning was some of the dumbest I've ever heard. The Cadillac has some of the lowest lease rates, and the C-Class is one of the best entry level luxury sales vehicles. Something the ES has been in the past. Complete and utter BS. These cars are apples and oranges. Lexus and their marketing team are smoking something themselves... Smh. Terrible launch event
There reasoning was some of the dumbest I've ever heard. The Cadillac has some of the lowest lease rates, and the C-Class is one of the best entry level luxury sales vehicles. Something the ES has been in the past. Complete and utter BS. These cars are apples and oranges. Lexus and their marketing team are smoking something themselves... Smh. Terrible launch event
10-20-12, 03:13 PM
#57
Had a chance to test drive the new MKZ hybrid at car show event in LI last weekend.
Observations:
- Attractive exterior and interior styling, although may be too much for conservative buyers. I personally like it, especially in Silver.
- Interior is VERY CHEAP, hard plastics everywhere around the dash....The new ES is 100000x better.
- Hybrid system is NOT smooth at all and also makes loud noise. Not something you want in a luxury car.
- Lack of standard shifter is gimmicky IMO.
- I got $20 VISA CARD as a thank you,, which was a pleasant surprise
The crazy part is they had a professional video playing the whole time comparing this car to the Audi A6 and Lexus GS.......What the hell are Lincoln execs smoking??? How do you not know ur target market?
Their competition should be Acura RL, Buick Lacrosse, and the Lexus ES maybe a stretch even.
I predict this to be another SALES FAILURE!
Observations:
- Attractive exterior and interior styling, although may be too much for conservative buyers. I personally like it, especially in Silver.
- Interior is VERY CHEAP, hard plastics everywhere around the dash....The new ES is 100000x better.
- Hybrid system is NOT smooth at all and also makes loud noise. Not something you want in a luxury car.
- Lack of standard shifter is gimmicky IMO.
- I got $20 VISA CARD as a thank you,, which was a pleasant surprise
The crazy part is they had a professional video playing the whole time comparing this car to the Audi A6 and Lexus GS.......What the hell are Lincoln execs smoking???
How do you not know ur target market?Their competition should be Acura RL, Buick Lacrosse, and the Lexus ES maybe a stretch even.
I predict this to be another SALES FAILURE!
I have driven plenty of Lincoln MKZ hybrids that are near silent.
Did you really even drive a 13 MKZ? Production has not even started.
Maybe a preproduction car? (they usually have some problems) They haven't started producing 13 MKZs yet.
BTW the Lexus ES is not a stretch by any means.
Many 13 MKZ cars are on preorder right now.
I do work at a Lincoln dealership. I thought Lincoln was a joke until I really started learning the technology that Lincoln has come to use. I do honestly believe that Lincoln is very underestimated.
I predict a SALES SUCCESS for the 13 MKZ.
10-21-12, 07:57 PM
#58
Lexus Test Driver
Saving space on the interior is gimmicky? Just different.
I have driven plenty of Lincoln MKZ hybrids that are near silent.
Did you really even drive a 13 MKZ? Production has not even started.
Maybe a preproduction car? (they usually have some problems) They haven't started producing 13 MKZs yet.
BTW the Lexus ES is not a stretch by any means.
Many 13 MKZ cars are on preorder right now.
I do work at a Lincoln dealership. I thought Lincoln was a joke until I really started learning the technology that Lincoln has come to use. I do honestly believe that Lincoln is very underestimated.
I predict a SALES SUCCESS for the 13 MKZ.
I have driven plenty of Lincoln MKZ hybrids that are near silent.
Did you really even drive a 13 MKZ? Production has not even started.
Maybe a preproduction car? (they usually have some problems) They haven't started producing 13 MKZs yet.
BTW the Lexus ES is not a stretch by any means.
Many 13 MKZ cars are on preorder right now.
I do work at a Lincoln dealership. I thought Lincoln was a joke until I really started learning the technology that Lincoln has come to use. I do honestly believe that Lincoln is very underestimated.
I predict a SALES SUCCESS for the 13 MKZ.
Again these are my observations. There was no space really saved and the interior materials used are not very good.
How is Lincoln underestimated? They have 5 Models = 3 SUVs and 2 Cars, which all are based on Fords. Lincoln has poor designs and nothing that really distinguishes them as a LUXURY automaker.
10-22-12, 10:11 AM
#59
the 2013 mkz shares 15% of the same materials with the 13 fusion. that would mostly be nuts, bolts, and hinges. so for 13 the mkz it is not based on the fusion. wait a couple more years and lincoln and ford will have almost nothing in common. no dealerships have 13 mkzs yet. so how did you drive one?
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10-22-12, 11:57 AM
#60
Pole Position
the 2013 mkz shares 15% of the same materials with the 13 fusion. that would mostly be nuts, bolts, and hinges. so for 13 the mkz it is not based on the fusion. wait a couple more years and lincoln and ford will have almost nothing in common. no dealerships have 13 mkzs yet. so how did you drive one?
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WRT noise: They didn't bring the Hybrid though I had asked for one if available but I had a 3.7 AWD and it was quieter than I would have thought with only the engine noise intruding. I'm pretty sure these are early builds so creaks, groans and even wind noise etc... are probably to be expected but still... you'd think they would cull any cars that weren't representative of the "Lincoln Experience".
