BMW forced to lower 2012 3 Series automatic fuel economy to 33 mpg
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BMW forced to lower 2012 3 Series automatic fuel economy to 33 mpg
BMW forced to lower 2012 3 Series automatic fuel economy to 33 mpg
Remember that new 36-mpg 2012 BMW 3 Series we were so excited about, the 328i that got better fuel economy in EPA testing than even the old 335d diesel model? Well, those early estimates haven't held up.
BMW has confirmed to Autoblog that the EPA has issued revised numbers for the eight-speed automatic-equipped F30 328i, with highway fuel economy taking a 3-mile-per-gallon hit to 33 mpg and the city number dropping by a single digit to 23 mpg. BMW is investigating the discrepancy but says the 2012 figure will stay at 33. Spokesman Tom Plucinsky: "Unfortunately, there is no provision in the EPA rules for a re-test this year. Therefore regardless of the results of our investigation, the new rating will stand for this model year."
Though BMW says its testing showed the car capable of 36 mpg on the highway, the EPA decided to validate BMW's numbers and came away with different results. As we type this, the government's fueleconomy.gov website has not yet been updated, though BMW's consumer website reflects the new numbers. According to Plucinsky, buyers of the six-speed manual 328i can expect to see a 34 mpg highway figure on their window sticker, which fueleconomy.gov corroborates at 23/34.
What's surprising about this situation is that when we test drove the new 3 Series last fall, BMW told our Matt Davis it was estimating only 32 mpg highway. Plucinsky suggests that perhaps the 32-mpg figure was an "early estimate was based on the previous version of the 328i."
While the efficiency hit is disappointing, even with the downgrade to 33-to-34 miles per gallon, the 3 Series' fuel economy figures are still class-leading, besting competitors including the Acura TL and TSX, Audi A4, Cadillac CTS, Infiniti G, Lexus IS and Mercedes-Benz C-Class.
With all of that said, we can't help but wonder if this development will add fuel to the fire of those who have been clamoring for the EPA to "retest" the fuel economy of vehicles in the wake of owner complaints?
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/03/20/b...omy-to-33-mpg/
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that's what I was wondering....I thought the EPA tested and supplied the numbers on the window stickers....but its not so.....
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-mpg-estimates
While the public mistakenly presumes that this federal agency is hard at work conducting complicated tests on every new model of truck, van, car, and SUV, in reality, just 18 of the EPA’s 17,000 employees work in the automobile-testing department in Ann Arbor, Michigan, examining 200 to 250 vehicles a year, or roughly 15 percent of new models. As to that other 85 percent, the EPA takes automakers at their word—without any testing—accepting submitted results as accurate.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-mpg-estimates
While the public mistakenly presumes that this federal agency is hard at work conducting complicated tests on every new model of truck, van, car, and SUV, in reality, just 18 of the EPA’s 17,000 employees work in the automobile-testing department in Ann Arbor, Michigan, examining 200 to 250 vehicles a year, or roughly 15 percent of new models. As to that other 85 percent, the EPA takes automakers at their word—without any testing—accepting submitted results as accurate.
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I think before we get all "holier than thou" we should acknowledge that Toyota have built their billion dollar Prius brand (and their hybrids in general) on overstating and massaging fuel economy figures - particularly highway ones.
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Just my .02: Let's not forget that this is a four cylinder engine. Yes, it's exciting to see such MPG figures in the entry level lux segment, but this class is also dominated by V6s, most of which are quite long in the tooth now. I see people all over the internet praising BMW for such amazing MPG, and while those are solid numbers compared to say, an IS250, this is a four cylinder engine. Good power numbers and great engineering, but 4 cylinders are going to burn less fuel than 6...this is a no brainer.
Do you have some sort of data to back this up? Hybrids are a completely different animal. What about people who own CTs with a combined EPA rating of 42, and who are reporting 48-49mpg in real world use? Or Prius owners routinely getting 56-57mpg. Last time I drove an RX 450h on a road trip to Florida, I was getting 33mpg on the highway. When I drove an '08 GS 450h, I was averaging 26mpg and a good bit of that was highway driving. If anything, it seems that the EPA's most recent "revision" to their testing methods revised hybrids' MPG down below what real world owners are reporting. Of course, there will be variations based on driving style, topography, type of driving and even gas quality, but most everything I've seen from actual owners is solidly above EPA estimates.
Do you have some sort of data to back this up? Hybrids are a completely different animal. What about people who own CTs with a combined EPA rating of 42, and who are reporting 48-49mpg in real world use? Or Prius owners routinely getting 56-57mpg. Last time I drove an RX 450h on a road trip to Florida, I was getting 33mpg on the highway. When I drove an '08 GS 450h, I was averaging 26mpg and a good bit of that was highway driving. If anything, it seems that the EPA's most recent "revision" to their testing methods revised hybrids' MPG down below what real world owners are reporting. Of course, there will be variations based on driving style, topography, type of driving and even gas quality, but most everything I've seen from actual owners is solidly above EPA estimates.
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Prius can get its 50mpg easily... you can check on Prius chat for average mpg's.
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But then again, BMW never lies, so Toyota must be the evil one.
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I would not worry too much. In most of my cars I actually beat the stickered MPG ratings.
The EPA does their own tests on a chassis dyno with a dyno trace cycle that is called the ftp cycle blended in with a another more higher speed cycle. Humans drive these cycles so driver variation plays a BIG toll on this. Some manufacturers request certain drivers because of their driving style when the vehicle is tested..
The EPA does their own tests on a chassis dyno with a dyno trace cycle that is called the ftp cycle blended in with a another more higher speed cycle. Humans drive these cycles so driver variation plays a BIG toll on this. Some manufacturers request certain drivers because of their driving style when the vehicle is tested..
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Just my .02: Let's not forget that this is a four cylinder engine. Yes, it's exciting to see such MPG figures in the entry level lux segment, but this class is also dominated by V6s, most of which are quite long in the tooth now. I see people all over the internet praising BMW for such amazing MPG, and while those are solid numbers compared to say, an IS250, this is a four cylinder engine. Good power numbers and great engineering, but 4 cylinders are going to burn less fuel than 6...this is a no brainer.
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I've owned 2 2G Prius and a 3G and all of them AVERAGED 60+mpg.