Toyota to attempt Nurburgring record...
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0-60 is nice, but it's really just a measure to reach 'highway speeds'. Drag racers hit 300mph in less than 5 seconds, but they can't turn. On racetracks acceleration is good, but handling is better. That's why I know this car will put the Peugeot to shame.
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OK so I was wrong. The Peugeot was a road car prototype and the Toyota is a true race car (though it surprisingly seats 2). Bite me. 
http://www.toyota-motorsport.com/ser...d-for-tmg.html
NEW EV LAP RECORD FOR TMG
30 August 2011
Toyota Motorsport GmbH (TMG) has set a new lap record for an electric vehicle (EV) at the legendary 20.8km Nürburgring Nordschleife circuit in Germany.
The TMG EV P001, with 100% electric powertrain and Jochen Krumbach at the wheel, set a new lap record of 7mins 47.794secs to beat the previous lap record, which stood at 9mins 1.338secs, by a very substantial margin.
Using two electric motors, the TMG electric powertrain has a top speed of 260km/h which combined with 800Nm of torque to achieve impressive speeds on the extremely challenging Nordschleife track, which includes significant elevation changes and lengthy flat-out sections.
TMG’s target prior to the 29 August record run was to become the first electric vehicle break the eight-minute barrier and this was achieved comfortably on a day when the notoriously changeable Nürburgring weather stayed fine, although track temperatures were relatively low.
Such performance shows TMG’s electric powertrain is ideal to power any future single-make electric motorsport series and TMG will begin commercial sales of this technology in 2012. TMG continues to advance its electric vehicle capability for motorsport applications with in-house development of the electric powertrain and ongoing investigations into alternative chassis solutions.
Pascal Vasselon, TMG’s Technical Director, said: “The goals for this project were twofold: obviously we wanted to set a new EV lap record and I am very pleased we could achieve that so comprehensively. On the other hand, we also wanted to learn more about the operation of our electric powertrain in extreme circumstances; in motorsport there is no more extreme circuit than the Nürburgring. On the record lap the TMG EV P001 performed better than in testing due to the improvement we already could make based on that experience. We have enhanced our electric powertrain development thanks to the information our engineers have gained and our future EV products will benefit from this project.”
Rob Leupen, TMG’s Director Business Operations, said: “This is a very impressive achievement which really shows the huge potential for electric powertrains to deliver fast, exciting action on the race track. There’s no doubt that electric motorsport can be every bit as thrilling as traditional racing and it was an amazing sensation to watch the TMG electric vehicle fly past on the Nordschleife, with only the sound of wind rushing past and tyres squealing. To achieve a new lap record at the first attempt, and by such a huge margin, is a great achievement and I am very proud to see TMG’s name in the record books. But this is not the end of the story for TMG and I hope we will see our electric powertrains in action on the track again soon.”
The new lap record was completed on road-legal tyres, using the complete Nordschleife track. It was verified by independent lap timing.
TMG extends its thanks to its partners in this achievement: Aguti created and implemented the livery concept while rational motion integrated the electric powertrain, traction battery and control strategies. EVO Electric motor technology delivered the power. The TMG EV P001 is based on a Radical chassis as modified by TMG for e-WOLF.
Video of the lap:
Pictures:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/toyotamotorsport
Notice the last pic is taken in the same garage as that of the leaked LS TMG Edition and the LFA GT2.
http://www.toyota-motorsport.com/ser...d-for-tmg.html
NEW EV LAP RECORD FOR TMG
30 August 2011
Toyota Motorsport GmbH (TMG) has set a new lap record for an electric vehicle (EV) at the legendary 20.8km Nürburgring Nordschleife circuit in Germany.
The TMG EV P001, with 100% electric powertrain and Jochen Krumbach at the wheel, set a new lap record of 7mins 47.794secs to beat the previous lap record, which stood at 9mins 1.338secs, by a very substantial margin.
Using two electric motors, the TMG electric powertrain has a top speed of 260km/h which combined with 800Nm of torque to achieve impressive speeds on the extremely challenging Nordschleife track, which includes significant elevation changes and lengthy flat-out sections.
TMG’s target prior to the 29 August record run was to become the first electric vehicle break the eight-minute barrier and this was achieved comfortably on a day when the notoriously changeable Nürburgring weather stayed fine, although track temperatures were relatively low.
Such performance shows TMG’s electric powertrain is ideal to power any future single-make electric motorsport series and TMG will begin commercial sales of this technology in 2012. TMG continues to advance its electric vehicle capability for motorsport applications with in-house development of the electric powertrain and ongoing investigations into alternative chassis solutions.
Pascal Vasselon, TMG’s Technical Director, said: “The goals for this project were twofold: obviously we wanted to set a new EV lap record and I am very pleased we could achieve that so comprehensively. On the other hand, we also wanted to learn more about the operation of our electric powertrain in extreme circumstances; in motorsport there is no more extreme circuit than the Nürburgring. On the record lap the TMG EV P001 performed better than in testing due to the improvement we already could make based on that experience. We have enhanced our electric powertrain development thanks to the information our engineers have gained and our future EV products will benefit from this project.”
Rob Leupen, TMG’s Director Business Operations, said: “This is a very impressive achievement which really shows the huge potential for electric powertrains to deliver fast, exciting action on the race track. There’s no doubt that electric motorsport can be every bit as thrilling as traditional racing and it was an amazing sensation to watch the TMG electric vehicle fly past on the Nordschleife, with only the sound of wind rushing past and tyres squealing. To achieve a new lap record at the first attempt, and by such a huge margin, is a great achievement and I am very proud to see TMG’s name in the record books. But this is not the end of the story for TMG and I hope we will see our electric powertrains in action on the track again soon.”
The new lap record was completed on road-legal tyres, using the complete Nordschleife track. It was verified by independent lap timing.
TMG extends its thanks to its partners in this achievement: Aguti created and implemented the livery concept while rational motion integrated the electric powertrain, traction battery and control strategies. EVO Electric motor technology delivered the power. The TMG EV P001 is based on a Radical chassis as modified by TMG for e-WOLF.
Video of the lap:
Pictures:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/toyotamotorsport
Notice the last pic is taken in the same garage as that of the leaked LS TMG Edition and the LFA GT2.
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If Toyota really wanted to set a real record but doesn't even bother designing a new body let alone a new chassis, at least use a real Toyota--the TF110. Heck even an LFA would've done nicely even though the new record wouldn't have been as impressive. By using someone else's chassis and body design I'm not sure if this achievement is a credit to Toyota at all.
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If Toyota really wanted to set a real record but doesn't even bother designing a new body let alone a new chassis, at least use a real Toyota--the TF110. Heck even an LFA would've done nicely even though the new record wouldn't have been as impressive. By using someone else's chassis and body design I'm not sure if this achievement is a credit to Toyota at all.
They are marketing the the power train, not the chassis. The FIA and Formula 1 are supposed to be working on an EV series, I think Toyota is gunning for it.
Of Course an EV is not going to be as fast as a conventional powered machine with the same chassis. The weight difference alone is astronomical (a standard radical is 650kg, bout the same as an F1 car). That's why it's a record for EV vehicles (watch for the LFA's hot lap soon
)As for why they didn't use a formula one car? Who knows. Could have worked, but there is too much compromise in the setup. F1 cars don't like the very uneven surface of the ring. TMG did modify the Radical anyway, it's not as if they just got a radical and stuck some batteries in there.
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They are marketing the the power train, not the chassis. The FIA and Formula 1 are supposed to be working on an EV series, I think Toyota is gunning for it.
Of Course an EV is not going to be as fast as a conventional powered machine with the same chassis. The weight difference alone is astronomical (a standard radical is 650kg, bout the same as an F1 car). That's why it's a record for EV vehicles (watch for the LFA's hot lap soon )
As for why they didn't use a formula one car? Who knows. Could have worked, but there is too much compromise in the setup. F1 cars don't like the very uneven surface of the ring. TMG did modify the Radical anyway, it's not as if they just got a radical and stuck some batteries in there.
Of Course an EV is not going to be as fast as a conventional powered machine with the same chassis. The weight difference alone is astronomical (a standard radical is 650kg, bout the same as an F1 car). That's why it's a record for EV vehicles (watch for the LFA's hot lap soon
)As for why they didn't use a formula one car? Who knows. Could have worked, but there is too much compromise in the setup. F1 cars don't like the very uneven surface of the ring. TMG did modify the Radical anyway, it's not as if they just got a radical and stuck some batteries in there.
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They are marketing the the power train, not the chassis. The FIA and Formula 1 are supposed to be working on an EV series, I think Toyota is gunning for it.
Of Course an EV is not going to be as fast as a conventional powered machine with the same chassis. The weight difference alone is astronomical (a standard radical is 650kg, bout the same as an F1 car). That's why it's a record for EV vehicles (watch for the LFA's hot lap soon )
As for why they didn't use a formula one car? Who knows. Could have worked, but there is too much compromise in the setup. F1 cars don't like the very uneven surface of the ring. TMG did modify the Radical anyway, it's not as if they just got a radical and stuck some batteries in there.
Of Course an EV is not going to be as fast as a conventional powered machine with the same chassis. The weight difference alone is astronomical (a standard radical is 650kg, bout the same as an F1 car). That's why it's a record for EV vehicles (watch for the LFA's hot lap soon
)As for why they didn't use a formula one car? Who knows. Could have worked, but there is too much compromise in the setup. F1 cars don't like the very uneven surface of the ring. TMG did modify the Radical anyway, it's not as if they just got a radical and stuck some batteries in there.
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