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Old Jun 5, 2011 | 08:57 PM
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The two platform choices you choose are both great options. Your plan sounds reasonable. I'd go with the NSX. The 91-94 although the older 3.0L model lends itself to forced induction a little easier than the 3.2 with OBD2, drive by wire, and all that stuff. You can even go with ITB fairly easily for well under $10K on the NA1. It may not get you quite 400WHP, but a good amount over 300HP and you have the benefit of still being NA which some people prefer.

I really want to go with the ITB for my NA1, but I'm getting 25+ MPG right now and given the gas prices today, I just don't want to give that up yet.
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Old Jun 5, 2011 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsuguy
Yah, but why would I start with an inferior car? Almost everything performance wise is better about the Z06 across the board... thus why I want a very good handling car to start... I've driven stock C5's and stock Z's and the Z's are noticeably better.... Not to mention the ~150 lb difference in weight to start...
what you say is true, start with the best base you can afford~, so how much is a used z06 compared to a used c5? how much will it cost to get the used c5 to a decent lvl/z06 to a decent lvl? *decent is subjective, say 500hp on the street on steet tires on pump gas*, now ask 'if something breaks how easy/how much to get replacement parts for z06/c5'?

I myself do not know these answers but it might be worth a look if you're on a budget.
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Old Jun 5, 2011 | 10:39 PM
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EVO 9 or Subaru STI. If you want it to look a bit nicer then look at some old Supras.
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Old Jun 6, 2011 | 07:03 AM
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EVO 9 or Subaru STI. If you want it to look a bit nicer then look at some old Supras.
Both of those are starting to get above what I would call lightweight, not by a lot, but they are getting up there... Also, both small displacement cars... I've owned 7 or 8 DSM's over the years and love them, but just want something that doesn't have to be stressed as much to get the power... Sure, I helped a friend build a 500 whp EVO 8 with nothing done internally, but then you are dealing with a lot more lag and such... not terrible, but its there...

If I were to turbo either car (NSX or EVO), I'd probably use the same GT35R turbo and with a liter extra displacement, the NSX would spool it much much faster...

Supras are too heavy... If I was looking to do something like that, I'd go get another SC3/400 and swap it, as IMO, the SC is a nicer car inside...
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Old Jun 6, 2011 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by CK6Speed
The two platform choices you choose are both great options. Your plan sounds reasonable. I'd go with the NSX. The 91-94 although the older 3.0L model lends itself to forced induction a little easier than the 3.2 with OBD2, drive by wire, and all that stuff. You can even go with ITB fairly easily for well under $10K on the NA1. It may not get you quite 400WHP, but a good amount over 300HP and you have the benefit of still being NA which some people prefer.

I really want to go with the ITB for my NA1, but I'm getting 25+ MPG right now and given the gas prices today, I just don't want to give that up yet.
One of the things I am considering if/when I do this is to build my own turbo kit for the NSX... I've seen all of the ones out there, and they are fine, but I think they are charging some pretty high prices for most of them... Fabrication (other than headers) is pretty easy for me, so, there are a few things I might want to try and see the differences between... We'll see what happens
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Old Jun 6, 2011 | 05:58 PM
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C5 z06 is 405 rwhp out of the box and go for around 20k with 50k miles. Sounds like a no brainer to me but I may be biased, I just purchased a FRC and love it!
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Old Jun 6, 2011 | 06:12 PM
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996 Turbo...........they come with 400+ whp, no tuning required. Mint example can be found for under $40k now. Since it doesn't need tuning, you can use the $10k tuning money to buy the car.

It is the ugliest 911 ever, but it still looks cooler then most cars on the street.
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Old Jun 6, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsuguy
One of the things I am considering if/when I do this is to build my own turbo kit for the NSX... I've seen all of the ones out there, and they are fine, but I think they are charging some pretty high prices for most of them... Fabrication (other than headers) is pretty easy for me, so, there are a few things I might want to try and see the differences between... We'll see what happens
You can't turbocharged a NSX reliably for $10k. You can buy a blower for $10k, but I don't think they quite make 400 whp.
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Old Jun 6, 2011 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by LexusFiend
C5 z06 is 405 rwhp out of the box and go for around 20k with 50k miles. Sounds like a no brainer to me but I may be biased, I just purchased a FRC and love it!
.......... then when you get bored of it in stock form, FI time!!
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Old Jun 6, 2011 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BNR34
You can't turbocharged a NSX reliably for $10k. You can buy a blower for $10k, but I don't think they quite make 400 whp.
Sure you can. For example, here's a complete kit with AEM FIC for under $7k:

http://www.nsxprime.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116229

BNR, 996tt is a good idea. Massive power out of the box, but I'd want an aftermarket warranty.
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Old Jun 6, 2011 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsuguy
Criteria
1) lightweight
2) handles well from factory
3) at least 3 liter displacement
4) tunable to 400 whp for 10k'ish
5) should look awesome
6) initial car price is a factor, but a variable as well (sorry, no Ferrari's, etc)
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Is-f..... Ftw
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Cept you can't find one for close to $25k
There is nothing lightweight about the IS F regardless of the price.
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Old Jun 6, 2011 | 07:14 PM
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How about a Porsche Cayman S ? Meanwhile the NSX and Z06 are great choices.
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Old Jun 6, 2011 | 07:15 PM
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E36 M3
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Old Jun 6, 2011 | 09:29 PM
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2 options for you that meet all your criterias:

Lancer Evo IX Wideboy:



Sylvia S15 Wideboy:




EDIT: Ack..nevermind....don't know why you want 3 liters of displacement.....
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Old Jun 6, 2011 | 10:17 PM
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My votes go to:

E46 M3...most practical
2001 Speedway White Z06....most rare
MKIV Supra w/10k in mods....holy sht
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