Wow! the 7 series just gets no love.

 

Where did you get that???

I pointed out in a previous post that the higher price point of several of the MB models helps it hold a higher level of prestige, but nowhere did I say that because MB has more expensive models they are better.

BMW is a company that makes cars that target the entry level and mid level luxury car buyer. They have nothing and have never had anything that competes in the ultra-lux or supercar arena.

Your notion that the M cars "lead" is amusing. What do they "lead" in??? For every category that they "lead", you could argue that they also "trail" in another. There are no perfect cars and it inevitably comes down to what a specific buyer prefers.

Being faster around a track means absolutely diddly to those that have never been to or have no intention of going to one....which is the vast majority of car buyers.


Just curious how you could possibly compare the GL to the X6?

The GL has the most useable third row in the class, is offered in 3 variants including diesel and has decent utility....the X6 has none of those. I can't think of two SUV's that are further apart in purpose.

 

No love for the C class either! What about after this facelift?

 

STi pwns both AMG and M.

 

I have loved Mercedes-Benz since I could first walk and talk, and my doting grandfather owned a black Mercedes. I have a picture somewhere of me "driving" my grandfather's Mercedes, standing on the driver's seat and leaning against that big steering wheel with the big chrome 3-pointed star in the centre and the semi-circular metal horn ring around it.

A Mercedes-Benz comes with prestige that no other car comes with (the possible exception may be a Rolls-Royce). The prestige comes from heritage and a history of being the oldest car company in the world. What other automobile manufacturer can trace their history back to Karl Benz and Gottlieb Daimler, the inventors of the internal combustion automobile?

There is also a history of innovation: the Diesel engine, safety cage, crumple zones, airbags, ABS, ESP (stability control), pre-collision... Mercedes was known for safety before Volvo.

 

Hmm, hard to find anything prestigious about models like the R350 or the previous gen C230.



I definitely prefer the F10 5 series over the W212 E.

 

LOL yea the hatcback C class was such a horrible car. I am glad that only after 3 years mercedes canceled the production of that car

 

I can see where you coming from but the benz "prestige" only come with S-class and E-class. All other series are just great cars. BMW on the other hand really dont have the prestige of the S and E classes but that damn M3 can take on just about anything in the Mercedes arsenal imo.

 

I do agree to that. Post-facelift, I'd have the C over the 3.

 

Some people prefer the Luxury/refinement/pure power of the AMG models, others cannot do without a 3rd pedal, and more raw feel/driving dynamics of a //M car. Both AMG/M badge BMWs make a lot of power and cost a decent amount of money, but they are still pretty big differences IMO. On a Lexus forum, it is not surprising to more people prefer the luxury of AMG/MBZ.

I know a few buyers who prefer the M3 due to the fact they enjoy driving stick more.

 

Of course there is you didn't give us the third choice of Lexus. Haha

Simply, MB by the perceptions when I think of E/5 and S/7 levels. The 5 series I had long ago, that just flipped the light switch off. Some BMW drive time would be nice for me, I wouldn't turn away some MB drive time either.

 

I based my choices from the generations before up till the most recent models. I've always liked the E class and preferred it to the 5 series. I've seen the new 5 series, and it still doesn't do anything for me. My aunt leases E classes every few years, and sitting in them- they just feel right to me as a passenger., with the W211 being my favorite currently. I've been in 5 series (e39-361), and though they feel fast, as a passenger, each time it felt mundane. I am young, and I'm looking from a perspective of both luxury and a sporty feel, and MB in my opinion does a better job.

 

My favorite Suv in the world that actually retains it's value is the G55. The car is a tank on wheels and extremely fast too.

 

For me:
MB AMG > BMW M

However, you can't discount BMW products in its entirety though. The BMW 320d sells like pancakes in my country.......and holy crap, the M6 is one beautiful yet bad-*** BMW. It makes me wonder if the next-gen model can top it.

Anyways, just my thoughts

 

Let's not forget about the competition!