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Old 12-07-10, 11:11 AM
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Worst Car Flops Of 2010
Hannah Elliott, 12.06.10, 1:00 PM ET


Last week Honda announced it will discontinue the Element, an angular SUV meant to appeal to quirky-cool drivers, but which seemed to appeal to no one: The car suffered seven consecutive years of declining U.S. sales. The line will be killed after model-year 2011 units leave the factory.

Dwindling sales is one way to determine an automotive flop. Excessive hype before a launch, with media silence afterward (see: Acura ZDX) is another. So is a round of scathing reviews from auto critics, and a Consumer Reports rating that places a car among the 10 worst vehicles of the year (see: Smart Fortwo).

Sure, some owners of these vehicles might love their cars and may be completely happy with their purchases. But overall these lines failed to meet expectations--or even worse, hurt the company as a whole. That's why the ZDX, Fortwo and Element rank among the worst cars of the year.


To develop a list of cars that flopped this year, we consulted three expert auto analysts: Jake Fisher, senior automotive engineer for Consumer Reports; Troy Snyder, director of product development at NADAGuides; and John McElroy, host of Detroit's Autoline Daily. Each nominated what they think were the worst new vehicles, all things considered.

Admittedly, it's a subjective tally. One car they all agreed on, though, is the Honda Insight. This was going to be the hybrid sedan to beat Toyota's Prius--it cost a few thousand dollars less, and is more conventionally styled. But the Insight's drive performance--and sales--didn't reflect the hype.

"It has failed miserably against the Prius," McElroy says. "It's a complete flop. In fact, Prius sells 10 times what the Insight sells."

The real secret, McElroy adds, is that almost every hybrid on the market today is a flop: "I guarantee you every single automaker is losing money on every single hybrid they build, with the exception of the Prius."

Hybrids are losing money because consumers just aren't buying them. In the 12 years since hybrid vehicles have been on the American market, and with seven mainline brands selling more than 20 hybrid options--everything from the Lexus HS250h sedan to the Cadillac Escalade Hybrid SUV--hybrids still make up just over 2% of the market. And half of that belongs to the Prius.
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Interesting list with no real surprises.

OTOH it's good the carmakers are willing to take some chances even though they don't always work out.
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
Interesting list with no real surprises.
So true.
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So true.
Yes, a non-event.
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cliff notes: hybrids suck. (although 1sicklex's GS450h was very cool to drive!)
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Ouch! Honda has too many cars on that list. But we all knew that.....
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Nothing special, and I'm glad that the element will be out of the line up, I never liked it and I never will.
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i was prepared to call bullsh-- if i didn't see the HS250 on that list.
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Admittedly, it's a subjective tally. One car they all agreed on, though, is the Honda Insight. This was going to be the hybrid sedan to beat Toyota's Prius--it cost a few thousand dollars less, and is more conventionally styled. But the Insight's drive performance--and sales--didn't reflect the hype.

"It has failed miserably against the Prius," McElroy says. "It's a complete flop. In fact, Prius sells 10 times what the Insight sells."
The Insight failed against the Prius for two main reasons. One, the Insight simply doesn't have the engineering/refinement in its IMA system that Toyota puts in its hybrids....the electric motor jerks and bumps noticeably while engaging/disengaging, and, Two, the four-door Insight's back seat and headroom is almost as useless as that of a small sport-coupe.

But, I've said it before, and I'll say it again.....I still think the Insight is more solidly-built than the new 3Gen Prius. Compared to the 2Gen Prius, the 3Gen, IMO, is a big let-down in body sheet-metal and interior-trim solidness. Toyota really used a lot of thin, lightweight parts in the new Prius....maybe (?) one of the reasons for its excellent fuel mileage.

The Prius, unlike the Insight, also gets a lot of hype from celebrities, environmentalists, and the entertainment industry...not to mention Consumer Reports. It's been that way for years....and accounts for a lot of the car's popularity.

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If 2010 doesn't set Honda straight, nothing will. They dominated the year in flops and I hope management is listening. It's not just the ugliness, they're making fundamental mistakes such as designing whole vehicle types that shouldn't exist (most notably the Crosstour). The Insight, on the other hand demonstrates Honda's failing technology. To even introduce a Prius fighter that gets only 40/43 MPG when the Prius gets 48/51 MPG is embarrassing to Honda nevermind that the Insight looks like a cheap knockoff and basically has the interior of a Honda Fit.
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But, I've said it before, and I'll say it again.....I still think the Insight is more solidly-built than the new 3Gen Prius. Compared to the 2Gen Prius, the 3Gen, IMO, is a big let-down in body sheet-metal and interior-trim solidness. Toyota really used a lot of thin, lightweight parts in the new Prius....maybe (?) one of the reasons for its excellent fuel mileage.
this is absolutely preposterous, I'm sorry. The Insight is built like a Fit - it's cheap, hollow, and just embarrasing. The new Prius is no luxury car, and has some crappy interior parts, but at least it feels substantial, from both behind the steering wheel and on the inside.
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Originally Posted by -J-P-L-
If 2010 doesn't set Honda straight, nothing will. They dominated the year in flops and I hope management is listening. It's not just the ugliness, they're making fundamental mistakes such as designing whole vehicle types that shouldn't exist (most notably the Crosstour). The Insight, on the other hand demonstrates Honda's failing technology. To even introduce a Prius fighter that gets only 40/43 MPG when the Prius gets 48/51 MPG is embarrassing to Honda nevermind that the Insight looks like a cheap knockoff and basically has the interior of a Honda Fit.
Thumbs up......
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List is obvious, what we have talked bout. VW Routan should be included...probably some others too, Infinit M37/56 is a borderline flop. BMW 5 series GT flopped hard.

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I'm surprised I didn't see the BMW 5-Series GT and Lincoln MKT, but there are some 2011 models that been out for awhile I don't see too much of including the Mazda 2 and Infiniti M-line. The poor Suzuki, I have probably seen only once , I can't even see it as I pass the only dealer I know of that sells Suzuki because the front is flooded with used luxury cars.
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ZDX and crosstour were destined to fail from the get go.


The smart car does fairly decently here because of businesses buying them.
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