A day driving to work here in Southern California
08-06-10, 07:54 AM
#16
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Yes, but with proper lane discipline on multilane roads, those that drive at different speeds are less disruptive and more safe. Many Americans don't understand the concept and drive accordingly, often incrediby undisciplined, unskilled, unknowledgable, uncaring, unaware and incompetent.
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08-06-10, 07:57 AM
#17
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08-06-10, 08:34 AM
#18
but hey, at least i ran into a 997 turbo and a brand new m5, that was a bit more fun
Try driving in Europe and coming back here. After coming back from the Autobahn & Autostrata I have been nuts ever since. That was 3 years ago. A good majority of the cars use the fast lane for ONLY passing. Even when they are going decently fast, they do not even stay in that lane (80mph)+. When people saw me coming from a distance, they usually would change lanes to let me pass when I was VERY far away from them. Not once in 17 days did I have someone who didn't change lanes very early. I never had to brake for someone to move over unless they did not have a chance to move over immediately due to moderate traffic.
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SIGH.
08-06-10, 08:41 AM
#19
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That is exactly what I meant by the term "speed discipline".....not too fast or too slow, and a speed safe for road/traffic conditions.
08-06-10, 08:43 AM
#20
yup, that's what i had in mind, but i guess they think they have money and they can pose. yesterday coming home i saw this cl55, and um.... let's not get there.
but hey, at least i ran into a 997 turbo and a brand new m5, that was a bit more fun
i know what you mean, they are all just so well educated about being courteous, lane manners, and that left lanes are for passing. seriously, not hard at all...
but hey, at least i ran into a 997 turbo and a brand new m5, that was a bit more fun
i know what you mean, they are all just so well educated about being courteous, lane manners, and that left lanes are for passing. seriously, not hard at all...
Oh, yes and they don't pass on the right there either. It happens, but very rarely, people are generally not happy when someone does this to my knowledge (friends/relatives from Europe).
08-06-10, 09:08 AM
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Try driving in Europe and coming back here. After coming back from the Autobahn & Autostrata I have been nuts ever since. That was 3 years ago. A good majority of the cars use the fast lane for ONLY passing. Even when they are going decently fast, they do not even stay in that lane (80mph)+. When people saw me coming from a distance, they usually would change lanes to let me pass when I was VERY far away from them. Not once in 17 days did I have someone who didn't change lanes very early. I never had to brake for someone to move over unless they did not have a chance to move over immediately due to moderate traffic.
SIGH.
SIGH.
08-06-10, 09:11 AM
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To add:
I was driving 100+ (legally) at many times and people were very cognizant of me coming up behind them. Even at my rate of speed, they moved over way early.
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I was driving 100+ (legally) at many times and people were very cognizant of me coming up behind them. Even at my rate of speed, they moved over way early.
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08-06-10, 09:21 AM
#23
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Different vehicles and different drivers have different capabilities, therefore they drive at different speeds. That's expected and that is normal even countries where drivers are skilled. For example: 18 wheeler trucks drive at different/slower speed even if conditions are the same for all vehicles on the multi lane road. It is not realistic to expect all vehicles to drive at the same speed, nor is it safe. One speed that is "not too fast or too slow" is not safe for all drivers or all vehicles.
To simplify, slower traffic keep right, pass on the left. It's not that difficult, it works well in Europe and fairly well in Canada. Sadly American drivers are often clueless.
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08-06-10, 10:15 AM
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To add:
I was driving 100+ (legally) at many times and people were very cognizant of me coming up behind them. Even at my rate of speed, they moved over way early.
[shameless plug for European Delivery] Everyone who is looking to buy a European car should explore European Delivery options.
I was driving 100+ (legally) at many times and people were very cognizant of me coming up behind them. Even at my rate of speed, they moved over way early.
[shameless plug for European Delivery] Everyone who is looking to buy a European car should explore European Delivery options.
08-06-10, 10:18 AM
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Majority of america drivers are too stupid and too arrogant. They absolutely have no idea what the left lanes are for. I see a lot of hybrid doing 55 on the freeway. saving the planet, my ****. I am saving unicorns and I need to haul ***.
08-06-10, 10:38 AM
#26
i like the analogy on the big rigs. why they stay on the right? if people can understand that concept, then the same can/should apply to car driving in general. there is just no way (and doesn't make sense) to have an overall definitely of "safe" speed.
in quite some road conditions here, in a well built car, 80-85mph is very safe. so?
08-06-10, 10:49 AM
#28
It's really simple:
If the majority of the cars are going 75-80 in the fast lane and you are going 65, while you are obeying the law, you are actually making the conditions more unsafe by doing so.
If every driver allowed others to pass, you wouldn't have people weaving in and out, constantly accelerating and braking. Dangerous lane changes decrease and people actually are more fuel efficient since their rate of speed is staying somewhat constant.
Drivers in the U.S. are just arrogant and detached from the world. Just doesn't make see when you see a line of cars behind you and keep passing you to be like, hey, maybe I should move over. Reminds me of the old Disney cartoon where there were a bunch of Plutos driving. Most people are nice and courteous outside of the car but once they get into their car, it's all about them.
If the majority of the cars are going 75-80 in the fast lane and you are going 65, while you are obeying the law, you are actually making the conditions more unsafe by doing so.
If every driver allowed others to pass, you wouldn't have people weaving in and out, constantly accelerating and braking. Dangerous lane changes decrease and people actually are more fuel efficient since their rate of speed is staying somewhat constant.
Drivers in the U.S. are just arrogant and detached from the world. Just doesn't make see when you see a line of cars behind you and keep passing you to be like, hey, maybe I should move over. Reminds me of the old Disney cartoon where there were a bunch of Plutos driving. Most people are nice and courteous outside of the car but once they get into their car, it's all about them.
08-06-10, 11:03 AM
#29
I wouldn't say it's anything "special" today, probably a lot of people encountered the same driving around here.
Entering the freeway, this girl in her FORD Flex decided that she could take on the M3. Well, I am fine with that, I am always good to have some fun together. But no, she got away, and started going in and out of cars driving like an idiot. It was so not worth it (risk) so I just cruised on the fast lane. Well, I guess driving like an *** doesn't mean smart. She ended up so stuck behind cars and truck in the slow lane, and she started tailing people here and there. Can't understand these people, I eventually passed her and never saw her again.
Entering the freeway, this girl in her FORD Flex decided that she could take on the M3. Well, I am fine with that, I am always good to have some fun together. But no, she got away, and started going in and out of cars driving like an idiot. It was so not worth it (risk) so I just cruised on the fast lane. Well, I guess driving like an *** doesn't mean smart. She ended up so stuck behind cars and truck in the slow lane, and she started tailing people here and there. Can't understand these people, I eventually passed her and never saw her again.
I see idiots cutting in and out traffic while I do a constant pace in the middle lane. He eventually gets stuck on the inside lane while the lane I'm in just cruise by
This is my biggest peeve, most of the time, it's the teeny boppers. Picture is self explanatory:
08-06-10, 12:05 PM
#30
Big city driving courtesy and patient is long gone, so much worst during rush hour. Really hate people that cut off everyone in a long line in order to exist or those with a badass mentality. Only when travel out of state that I'm noticed people move over unless they let me be a scapegoat . Be safe and 
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